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Union County Residents Fret over Washington's Debt Debate

Most appear less likely to blame either party; say responsibility rests with Congress and the political climate in Washington.

Union County residents already reeling from a lackluster economy are concerned about the political brinkmanship being played in Washington over whether the to raise the debt ceiling, and they have strong opinions about the burgeoning national debt.


"It's not that the Democrats are doing it or the Republicans, it's Congress -- all of them," said Summit resident John De Socio, 65. "The brinkmanship has nothing to do with keeping the house on order. What part of broke don't they understand? We are getting to the point where the Chinese are going to ask for their money back - in gold."

President Barak Obama's Monday press conference upped the ante with Republicans to cut a deal to raise taxes to fund an increase in the debt ceiling, which stands at $14.294 trillion. The national debt hit that mark on May 16.

The Republicans, however, have refused to agree to a tax increase proposed by President Obama. They have scoffed at raising taxes in a poor economy with a job market that is stuck in neutral and a 9.2 percent unemployment rate.  The standoff has set the stage for a political game of chicken as the country's financial fortunes hang in the balance.

De Socio said he believed that President Obama's plan is to increase the debt ceiling and borrow more money in order to infuse more cash into the economy. "That failed two years ago," De Socio said. "Unemployment is still sky high."

Kerry Stubbs, 45, who lives in Kenilworth but works in Westfield, said that he has been watching the debt ceiling debate closely.

"I am absolutely worried about the national debt," Stubbs said. "My children are going to be strangled by this. It's so uncomfortable to be a slave to a lender, especially when we borrowed five trillion in the last five or so years."

Stubbs noted the strong political posturing present in the debate. He said he read several months ago that President Obama said he could not raise taxes because each American family would be taxed an extra $3,000 dollars a year and it would be wrong to  do in this economy.

"So why is he so to adamant about it now?," Stubbs asked, incredulously.

Flo Mondelli, a "50-ish", New Providence resident said that she has been following the debt debate. "Our country is in trouble," she said. "We owe $14 trillion dollars  and I see our economy not getting better but worse, worse, worse."

Mondelli blames "everyone in Washington," for the financial problems but as a Republican, said, "I think the Democrats have to work harder" to cut a deal," she said. "If the Democrats think that taxes are going to take care of the deficit they are wrong."

Summit resident George Cooper, 66, said he also placed equal blame on the Republicans and Democrats.

"The Democrats want to keep all the projects going by raising taxes and they think they are right," Cooper said. House Speaker John "Boehner is trying to cut deals even with his own party, and they don't want to, so he is caught in the middle. But I still think Obama just doesn't get it - he wants to keep spending money that we don't have."

The residents said that it's apparent that everyone in the nation will be affected by decisions made in Washington.

As part of his posturing, President Obama said that he can't guarantee Social Security and other government checks will go out if the debt ceiling isn't raised by Aug. 2, but remained hopeful of a deal, telling the nation on Monday that "We'll get it done by August 2nd."

In the meantime, local worries are increasing as residents wonder what will happen to their own economic fortunes.

"I think everybody is affected," Stubbs said. "If you are rich, it's harder to hold on to your money and if you are not rich it is harder to get money."

A monetary squeeze would most certainly be felt by small businesses, already reeling from lower foot traffic and fickle spending trends.

"Small businesses will be hurt," De Socio said. "Now when they want to buy more goods it will be too expensive. They cannot afford to raise prices in this economy so they will have less profit to re-invest into their businesses."

When it comes right down to it, DeSocio said that he has lost faith in the government's ability to lead.

"This whole thing reminds me of a woman who the bank calls and says that she is overdrawn and she responds, 'how can you say I am overdrawn when I still have checks in my checkbook?'"

20 year Summit Resident July 19, 2011 at 01:37 am
It is such a cop out for people to blame "both parties" or "all of the politicians". Pay attention and take a stand. Taxes, Debt and Spending are ALL too high. It is not "both" parties that are negotiating in bad faith on this budget. Where is the Democrat President's legally mandated budget or the Democrat Senate's legally mandated budget? They don't exist except in the form of fuzzy media non-specific soundbites. Democrats would not even be discussing this topic if the voters, The Tea Party and the Republican majority in the House had not forced the issue. Who is trying to reduce the debt, the taxes and spending? It is the Republicans. Who is scaremongering and making shameless threats to hold back checks for people when other spending could be cut? It is Democrat President Obama of course.
President Obama said himself that you do not raise taxes in a recession a couple years ago. It would be an even worse disaster for jobs and unemployment if taxes were raised now. And yet President Obama now sings a different tune. The concession President Obama should receive in this budget debate is the ability to raise the debt ceiling in exchange for equivalent spending cuts. If he was serious about helping people get back to work he would not be seeking job-killing tax increases. President Obama should knock off the class warfare, do the deal and then focus on other economic incentives for the private sector....if he can squeeze that in between his fundraisers and rounds of golf.
Pete August 8, 2011 at 08:23 pm
Dear Cloud Dweller in Summit:
Can you Teabaggers find some real issues to discuss, instead of this nonsense? Dont believe me? Check out the facts: http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/ President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president, according to CBS News White House Correspondent Mark Knoller. Knoller ... has covered every president since Gerald Ford and is known for keeping detailed records on presidential travel .... Some of the president’s recent predecessors, however, have spent more days — either entirely or partially — away from the White House "on vacation" during their first year in office. President Reagan, in 1981, spent all or part of 42 days away from the White House "on vacation" at his home in Santa Barbara, Calif, according to Knoller. President George W. Bush spent even more time away from the presidential mansion in the nation’s capital than Reagan. Of the 77 total "vacation" trips the former president made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year as president in 2001, according to Knoller.
20 year Summit Resident November 10, 2011 at 05:25 am
Pete, I happened to wander back and saw your post which consists essentially of 2 unprovoked attempted insults directed at me. Someone you don't know with views about Obama different than yours. You then proceed to "demolish" (LOL) my post by addressing a tongue in cheek comment in the very last sentence.
What an utterly lame and pitiful post by you. How comical that you rant about my post's"nonsense" and then write your entire post about vacation days. Strong rebuttal, Pete!!! No comments on any of my other points, Pete (Debt, taxes, jobs, unemployment, spending)? Words too big for you? Keep it up champ. My side loves knowing that rocket scientists like you are working the other side for Obama's election. Your man is an utter disaster on his way to a landslide loss. If you happen to come back to this post please do put me some knowledge about the many accomplishments of President Obama that are not nonsense and will result in his reelection!

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Deborah Bell (Editor) June 18, 2013 at 11:48 am
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Karen Egert June 18, 2013 at 06:06 pm
I agree -- they should have a separate tab for Letters to the Editor
karen egert June 14, 2013 at 03:01 pm
Apparently Mr. Common Sense you were not at the Board meeting because if you were you would knowRead More that it was clearly outlined that all decisions and reporting of this police officer will be from the police department -- not the school. So are you saying that Lucy Biegler is now the new spokeswoman ? You said she is calling out the position for what it REALLY is ? The discrepancy in outlined roles and the vagueness of this position is reason enough to question it. Ofcourse you have an opinion , but because our children will be directly affected I think our concerns should be heavily weighed . .
karen egert June 14, 2013 at 03:05 pm
Rob -- to answer your question , I was never crazy about the DARE program and yes , I was disturbedRead More that the officer carrying a gun in school . I didn't like it . So I am being consistent. I was new to the school at the time .
A.John Blake June 19, 2013 at 06:22 am
I have no problem with a policeman in school. His ability to carry a gun is no different on schoolRead More property than elsewhere. Let us make sure we all understand that the man is a policeman, not a counselor. I think the idea that the children will be safer is absurd. Cameras in every public area in every school, monitored by the police ,would probably provide better surveillance. I object to any understanding between the Board and the Town which creates a hybrid officer who is required to act differently in school than he does on the street. In the past, the police have been hobbled by "arrangements" between the then BOE and the Town that the police would not enter the schools without permission. Investigations would not be conducted until the Board had finished its investigation. A "safe haven" had been created. This is wrong. In school, the children knew they didn't have to worry about police and acted accordingly. This is wrong. If the people want a policeman in school, let him be a policeman. Let him act as he does on the street. He is not a trained counselor . Don't think he will solve children's problems. At the moment, I don't think the entire picture has been given to us. I cannot believe there is not some writing between Dr.Dolan and the WPD which outlines the authority of each towards one another and over the SRO. I don't believe the BOE is about to allow the " fox into the hen house" without promises that restrict the policeman. I oppose any restriction of a policeman in the performance of his duty. I do not want to see the return of the "arrangements" of the past. The BOE and the Town must provide us with the full agreement or we should dismiss the thought of a SRO.
Charles Sullivan June 12, 2013 at 05:28 pm
Maddy, Thank you for your comment and I agree that's a lot of money. I just wanted to let you knowRead More that I wanted to give the board some options to consider in case they felt the need to hire a hybrid public safety officer with experience in security operations. Does the town need one, maybe. Can the WPD do more in regards to daily school security, yes I think so but they don't have to assign a cop they already have on the books for this activity. Thank you again for time.
New perspective June 13, 2013 at 02:45 pm
Mr. Sullivan - thank you for your lengthy explanation and detail. I think one of the statements youRead More made should speak volumes to all "Resource officers are proactive, and they can stop something before it starts, Police Officers are re-active and they respond to locations to enforce the law." Do we really want an armed officer in the school who MAY react to let's say someone who has a watergun but the police officer *thinks* it is a real gun at first quick glance? This happens everyday thoughout this country all by accident. Do we really need WHS to be another statistic? Here's another question....why just have an SRO at the High School? Aren't the middle school aged children MORE prone to peer pressure and stress that can cause them to want to harm others as a reaction? In my Non-Professional opinion, middle school aged kids are more of a danger than High School kids.
John Q. Public June 14, 2013 at 11:17 am
Mr. Sullivan, I believe I read that the SRO position had been eliminated for budgetary reasons inRead More the past but that doesn't really address the first issue I mentioned, nor does your comment about having external foot patrols. (As an aside, I believe the crossing guard in the morning at the corner where the auditorium is is a regular sworn police officer). In addition, I see the presence or lack of such external patrols and the lack of coverage if a single SRO has a sick day as logistical issues that can be worked out as opposed to legitimate objections. I don't really see these as evidence going against the SRO concept.
concerned citizen June 11, 2013 at 08:03 pm
Egert is just against guns, that's it. Everything has to fit into this, her small world, and sheRead More tries hard to make it fit, squeezes it, bends it and massages it. She gets help from the elitist billionaire Nanny Bloomberg for the talking points, but he has none regarding this specific topic, so she flounders.
john June 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm
Karen, karen, karen. it is to easy. never mind.
karen egert June 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm
GGG - I have nothing against the Westfield police . On the contrary, on the few occasions I hadRead More interactions with any of them., they were all professional , courteous and very helpful . I am grateful for our Westfield police . I believe that the wonderful job they do as trained police officers is spectacular . I just disagree with the use of a police officer that has only been trained in the duties of an SRO for 7 to 10 days to be the ones counseling our children. . But please don't say I'm against police officers . That's inaccurate and unfair .
karen egert June 11, 2013 at 01:38 am
Thank you Matt for working to represent the third ward . If elected I hope you will work to moveRead More the traffic light on Central Ave that is literally on a resident's driveway . It also flashes as soon as it turns red . As my street is one block from there , I often see residents walking across the crosswalk while the lights are flashing . It doesn't make sense and it's dangerous . Putting that light there is also a terrible thing to do to that resident in our Third Ward . It's wrong and we need it moved .