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'It Wasn't Me' Hoboken Man Named as Shooter Writes

A Connecticut town once voted the safest place to live in America experiences horrific violence in one of its elementary schools.

The man identified in media reports Friday as the shooter in the second deadliest school shooting in American history has told friends that he thinks his developmentally disabled brother may have committed the crime, Patch has learned.

A close friend of Ryan Lanza who requested to not be identified told Patch that he spoke to Lanza as he was making his way home from work to Hoboken. Lanza also took to his Facebook page to rail against CNN naming him as the suspect in the shooting in Newtown, Conn. 

“I’m on the bus home now, it wasn’t me,” Lanza wrote.

Lanza’s mother, Nancy, a school teacher, is believed to be among the dead. More than 25 people, including 18 students, died in the mass shooting.

The shooter was Adam Lanza, 20, the younger brother of Ryan Lanza, the New York Post reported at 3:29 p.m., citing sources. Ryan Lanza is being questioned by Hoboken police and is not a suspect, the Post also reported.

Newtown First Selectman Pat Llodra told Patch that there is no information being released about the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.

"I'm horrified, saddened and shocked that this happened in Newtown," Llodra said. "Our priorities right now are making sure everyone is safe and reuniting parents with their children."

A reverse 911 call went out to all Newtown public school parents, NBC is reporting. Parents converged on the school seeking information about their children.

One mother of an 8-year-old girl at the school, Brenda Lebinski, told Patch that her daughter is safe thanks to one teacher's decision to move all kids into a closet when a gunman had entered the building.

Lebinski said that she had spoken to her daughter's teacher as well as a volunteer who was in the school at the time of the shooting, and that a masked gunman had shot adults in the school.

"My daughter's teacher is my hero," Lebinski said. "She locked all the kids in a closet and that saved their lives."

According to Lebinski, the school had been on lockdown but police started leading out children and faculty members by class, and several children had blood on their clothing as they were led out. It isn't clear how many kids are still inside the school. Parents continue to surround the area, seeking news of their children.

Christine Wilford, a parent of a seven-year-old boy at the school, told Patch that her son was out of the school and safe with her husband. A woman standing next to Wilford burst into tears, saying her own son was still inside.

Danbury Hospital has confirmed to TV reporters that three patients have been transported by ambulance.

The Hartford Courant is reporting multiple injured parties, saying a shooter had been in the building’s main office and an individual in one area had “numerous gunshot wounds,” police said.

State police reported shortly after 12 p.m. that officials from the state Medical Examiner's Office were en route to the scene.

At a fire station near the school that is serving as a staging area, a woman was being wheeled on a gurney as a helicopter circled overhead and armed officials from multiple state and federal agencies moved beyond a cordoned-off area swarmed by parents.

Marilyn Gudsnuk, 52, of nearby Southbury said she heard 10 to 12 gunshots around 9:40 a.m. Gudsnuk, who attended the elementary school herself as a child, said she is taking care of a 91-year-old resident who lives across the street from the school.

"I took off running into the house," she said. "I didn't know what was happening. It was scary."

Asked whether she imagined a shooting could happen at her former school, Gudsnuk said, "Never in a million years."

"I just pray for these people," she said. "The anguish they are going through. And all because someone's not right in the head."

Journey December 16, 2012 at 03:31 pm
http://slog.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/mobile/2012/12/15/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother
johnozed December 16, 2012 at 04:40 pm
Are they legal now oh wise one?
johnozed December 16, 2012 at 04:41 pm
Thanks Journey. Good article, chilling.
johnozed December 16, 2012 at 04:44 pm
Bumper sticker philosophies are the best.
Steve December 16, 2012 at 05:01 pm
There is no affirmative duty under tort law (or even under criminal law) for a person to take ANY steps with respect to a relative's known possession or negligence regarding a firearm, nor regarding such a person's mental disabilities, especially where there is no in loco parentis relationship between the purported defendant and the relative. Such a suit would almost certainly be dismissed well before trial. And there is certainly no such legal cause of action against one who is "negligent with this right to bear arms."
Steve December 16, 2012 at 05:10 pm
I must add that I am long past being surprised by all the folks who urge legal redress for any of society's problems, while often it is those same people decrying the litigiousness of America and impugning the integrity of all lawyers . . . .
Concerned December 16, 2012 at 05:25 pm
Steve
We have precedent as it relates to DWI manslaughter which civil suits have been succcessfully resulted in civil penalties against those who serve and enable the driver who kills under the influence. In this case there is a joint custody order entered in conjunction with the divorce decree. The Father had a loco parentis relationship and should be accountable for the care and environment which impacted the killer who was emotionally unstable with asperger syndrome, which has symptoms of depreesion and tantrums and anger issues. A significant civil financial judgement would go a long way to broaden accountability beyond the killer alone. It has worked with DWI cases and everyone is aware of consequences of over serving drivers in your home or in a restaurant.
Steve December 16, 2012 at 05:55 pm
You are incorrect and mixing up different legal principles. And there was no longer any legal relationship between the father and the son, who had reached his majority under any such custody agreement.
Concerned December 16, 2012 at 06:05 pm
Steve, it appears he was deemed disabled, still a dependent living at home, and the mother receiving child support for his care. You are ignoring facts that a jury and judge would give significant weight to, and an emotionally charged case would enrage the jury to provide a significant judgent to the victims. Let the depositions begin and gain all the facts and see if a case can be brought. Our judicial system has had abuses but it has also changed societal behaviors that required change.
Steve December 16, 2012 at 06:38 pm
OK. This is the last I am going to post on this subject. I repeat, there was almost certainly no legal liability on the part of the father, and any such suit brought would almost certainly never survive summary judgment to reach a jury. Of course, anyone can file a suit.
First, the so-called "Dram Shop Acts" and equivalent laws are specifically directed to the instance where a tavern or liquor store -- or a host, such as at a party -- serves liquor to a person, especially one known to be intoxicated, and the person commits some tort on a third party. That is a different situation than where someone has mere KNOWLEDGE of another's acts leading to a tort. In general, mere knowledge of something is very rarely (if ever) actionable in the United States. Second, Adam Lanza, a 20-year-old, was long passed the age of majority in Connecticut, which is 18. That is the age that would have been certainly used by the court in Connecticut to set most, if not all, obligations, absent very unusual circumstances. All support, liability and joint-custody arrangements -- except perhaps for college expenses and the like -- would have normally expired long ago. You recite some "facts" that I doubt are true as a matter of law. For example, I have seen nothing saying he was a "legal" dependent of anyone -- such that someone was in loco parentis -- let alone an absent father. This would be very unusual, and certainly there is nothing reported that I have seen saying that.
George Clark December 16, 2012 at 06:41 pm
in a society that promotes a deadly competition between it's memebers, which class warfare and capitalism without limits is, more and more lonely or lost "losers" will rage against this sick machine you all call progess or the american way. we shall bow to a higher power instead of a chosen misguided few vainly seeking God like status among us.
Lori W. December 16, 2012 at 06:59 pm
It's really sad to read such cynical & insensitive comments on here. Some people have no heart, even if they aren't holding a gun in their hand. It's wrong to attack people with words because you don't agree with their spiritual belief/faith!! It's just plain WRONG. You're doing more damage with such arrogant & completely offensive remarks. Does anyone not have any shame or compassion anymore??
Monk December 16, 2012 at 07:11 pm
Capitalism does not equate to deadly competition between society's memebers. Sheesh.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 07:19 pm
Prayer is comfort only to those that pray and believe that. Your prayers mean nothing to me as I don't hear them. The people who lost children don't hear them either.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 07:42 pm
If you really think an individual with a gun would stand up to a govt that is dictatorial as you say then it is you who is delusional and not those you put down. Maybe in the age of muzzle loading guns an individual might make a difference; today the govt has unlimited resources and weapons. I'll also bet that you oppose the EPA and your breath of ''fresh'' air might not be so fresh.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 07:45 pm
Brad, I'll bet you asked god to stop this madness the past ten massacres we've had. Hasn't helped has it? Maybe god has a plan for this that he/she is not sharing with us mere mortals.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 07:46 pm
And who is going to pay for this added ''protection''? NO MORE TAXES!
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 07:56 pm
@SK, Joe Stalin was a Communist. Whether he was an atheist we don't know. Before he joined the Communist party he was seminarian studying for the priesthood.
@Donna, I pray that you see the light and give up your views on guns.
Edward P. Campbell December 16, 2012 at 08:16 pm
@Concerned..Do you know anyone who ever got behind the wheel of a car after a few drinks and drove off? I’m sure you do. Did you pick the phone up and call the police? You knew that driver had been drinking and was impaired. We need to have a major verdict $$ on people like you who do nothing to tell the authorities of a dangerous condition like a drunk driver behind the wheel of a car. If you had called an alerted the police perhaps a tragedy could have been averted, so I guess that makes it your fault?.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 08:18 pm
B, are you going to seriously lock yourself at home? Millions of people go to the movies without getting shot. Even more go to malls and schools. You cannot live your life in fear.
John Santaella December 16, 2012 at 08:28 pm
@Edward P Campbell. You are seriously quoting Ronald Reagan, the great intellectual of our time? Ronald Reagan was actor who read his lines well whether reading for General Electric or the puppet masters of the GOP.
Families lost children and other loved ones. Don't desecrate that with quotes from Ronald Reagan.
Concerned December 16, 2012 at 08:40 pm
Edward Campbell, infact i do not drink and drive. The consequences are so severe, and rightly so. As i stated the bar tender who serves the drinks or if i was entertaining in my home and over served someone , i could be liable for damages. As for calling a police when i see a drunk driving, i would do so out of conscience but i would have no legal requirement to do so. In fact, some bars have spotters or plants who watch and call police on folks who are drunk and leaving to get in their cars. Parents and siblings of dangerous unstable persons should notify police to report threatening behaviors they observe to protect the public.
Journey December 16, 2012 at 09:39 pm
It is so very sad. The Tea Party has not sent a message expressing concern for the families, but they are trying to rally their forces against, and I quote, "Get ready. They’re coming for your guns. We knew it would happen and the time is here. The scourge on gun owners has begun. Right now government gun grabbing plans are being covertly organized."
Journey December 16, 2012 at 10:20 pm
https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/strange-gods-the-religious-right-s-offensive-response-to-the-tragedy-in
Sir December 16, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Guns are not the issue. Mental illness is. BTW - drunk drivers kill 40% more people than guns do. Should we ban cars?
Journey December 16, 2012 at 10:42 pm
I'm upset at the tea party for their fear mongering.
I know there is more potential for death from cars. I hate how people use this tragedy to advance their agenda. Huckelbee/prayer in school, both sides of the control debate. All using these children.
careless fills December 16, 2012 at 11:17 pm
If there is a legal case against "the family", it would be difficult to target the father, since the shooter had reached the age of majority. The surviving brother had little contact and surely has little legal responsibility. The person who could (and perhaps should) be targetted is the mother, who was very close to the situation and not only was giving comfort and shelter to her shooter son, but also provided the means for him to kill all of the victims at the school. If she were still alive, she probably would have all kinds of legal liability, or at least be the target for much legal action, since she put firearms and her son in the same place, or on purely strict liability that it was her guns that she didn't keep safe. The fact that she is now dead by her own son;s hands almost doesn;t make a difference since if she died any time after these events, suits could continue against her estate. So, I think the lawyers will go after the dead mother's estate, which may, in fact be quite substantial.
Michael December 16, 2012 at 11:31 pm
My god. Everyone who commented on this post should be ashamed of themselves. You took a horrifying massacre and used it to make a cheap point. If you don't believe in prayer that is just great but please don't use the murder of 20 innocent children to prove a point. Get over yourselves
Journey December 16, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Adam Lanza went through hree 30-round magazines of bullets in the Bushmaster assault rifle in about 10 minutes.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-detailed-account-yet-of-the-sandy-hook-massacre-2012-12 http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-very-very-bright-and-a-deeply-disturbed-kid-2012-12
John Santaella December 17, 2012 at 12:10 am
If that was an automatic weapon it would have gone through that ammunition in less than a minute.

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Apparently Mr. Common Sense you were not at the Board meeting because if you were you would knowRead More that it was clearly outlined that all decisions and reporting of this police officer will be from the police department -- not the school. So are you saying that Lucy Biegler is now the new spokeswoman ? You said she is calling out the position for what it REALLY is ? The discrepancy in outlined roles and the vagueness of this position is reason enough to question it. Ofcourse you have an opinion , but because our children will be directly affected I think our concerns should be heavily weighed . .
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Rob -- to answer your question , I was never crazy about the DARE program and yes , I was disturbedRead More that the officer carrying a gun in school . I didn't like it . So I am being consistent. I was new to the school at the time .
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I have no problem with a policeman in school. His ability to carry a gun is no different on schoolRead More property than elsewhere. Let us make sure we all understand that the man is a policeman, not a counselor. I think the idea that the children will be safer is absurd. Cameras in every public area in every school, monitored by the police ,would probably provide better surveillance. I object to any understanding between the Board and the Town which creates a hybrid officer who is required to act differently in school than he does on the street. In the past, the police have been hobbled by "arrangements" between the then BOE and the Town that the police would not enter the schools without permission. Investigations would not be conducted until the Board had finished its investigation. A "safe haven" had been created. This is wrong. In school, the children knew they didn't have to worry about police and acted accordingly. This is wrong. If the people want a policeman in school, let him be a policeman. Let him act as he does on the street. He is not a trained counselor . Don't think he will solve children's problems. At the moment, I don't think the entire picture has been given to us. I cannot believe there is not some writing between Dr.Dolan and the WPD which outlines the authority of each towards one another and over the SRO. I don't believe the BOE is about to allow the " fox into the hen house" without promises that restrict the policeman. I oppose any restriction of a policeman in the performance of his duty. I do not want to see the return of the "arrangements" of the past. The BOE and the Town must provide us with the full agreement or we should dismiss the thought of a SRO.
Charles Sullivan June 12, 2013 at 05:28 pm
Maddy, Thank you for your comment and I agree that's a lot of money. I just wanted to let you knowRead More that I wanted to give the board some options to consider in case they felt the need to hire a hybrid public safety officer with experience in security operations. Does the town need one, maybe. Can the WPD do more in regards to daily school security, yes I think so but they don't have to assign a cop they already have on the books for this activity. Thank you again for time.
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Mr. Sullivan - thank you for your lengthy explanation and detail. I think one of the statements youRead More made should speak volumes to all "Resource officers are proactive, and they can stop something before it starts, Police Officers are re-active and they respond to locations to enforce the law." Do we really want an armed officer in the school who MAY react to let's say someone who has a watergun but the police officer *thinks* it is a real gun at first quick glance? This happens everyday thoughout this country all by accident. Do we really need WHS to be another statistic? Here's another question....why just have an SRO at the High School? Aren't the middle school aged children MORE prone to peer pressure and stress that can cause them to want to harm others as a reaction? In my Non-Professional opinion, middle school aged kids are more of a danger than High School kids.
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Karen, karen, karen. it is to easy. never mind.
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