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Stoplight Argument Spills Out of Meeting Into Hallway

Former councilman and stoplight removal advocate continue argument in Municipal Building hallway following meeting.

 

The debate over the Central Avenue stoplight devolved into a shouting match between one of two advocates to remove the light and a former councilman during Tuesday’s Town Council meeting and in the hallway following the meeting.

Former Councilman Sal Caruana addressed the Council during the meeting to defend Mayor Andy Skibitsky and Council members over the placement of the pedestrian activated traffic light on the Central Avenue property of Adina Enclescu, just in from the intersection with Clover. Enclescu and neighbor Maria Carluccio have been advocating for the removal of the light from Enclescu’s lawn at Town Council meetings since September. 

“Every sign is on someone’s property. Every light is on someone’s property. Every speed bump is in front of someone’s house,” said Caruana in an address that was aimed at Carluccio and Enclescu during the public comment portion of the meeting. “Those decisions are made for the collective good of the community. When you balance all of the interests, we are trying to improve public safety. No one is trying to devalue anyone’s property."

Caruana, who voted for the placement of the light before his retirement from the Council at the end of 2009, addressed past traffic safety controversies from his seven-year tenure as a first ward councilman. These included public comments on the speed bumps placed on Benson Place and Gallows Hill Road, along with other traffic issues.

“This is not the only traffic improvement in the history of Westfield that’s impacted a local citizen,” he said.

Caruana addressed part of his comments to comments made by Enclescu and Carluccio earlier in the meeting about the impact of the light on Carluccio’s property value. Carluccio told the Council earlier in the evening that she had brought in three realtors to review Enclescu's property and ask what the impact of the light’s placement on her front lawn would be.

“They all said the same thing, that her buyer pool has been diminished considerably and the value of her home went down,” Carluccio said without identifying the names of the realtors.

Caruana jumped on this comment during his address to the Council.

“What this argument is about, is not about safety,” he said. “Realtors don’t come to talk about safety. It’s about property values. This is an argument about property values. One person’s property value.”

After telling Carluccio and Enclescu that Skibitsky and Council members have answered questions from the pair on past occasions, Caruana circled back to the property values argument. Earlier this year, Skibitsky told the pair during a Council meeting that he and Council members would not be answering further questions at meetings, saying that all questions had been answered.

“Let’s not make a mistake about what this is about,” he said. “This is an argument about my house, my property values, my neighbor’s property values.”

Caruana also said that he does not equate the quality of life issues being discussed by Carluccio and Enclescu with the quality of life issues raised by south side residents over the train whistles. This issue led to the town’s establishment of a quiet zone around the Rahway Avenue at grade railroad crossing.

Caruana’s characterization of the pair as “bullies” drew a response from Carluccio, who started debating Caruana from the audience. Caruana said he was referencing past statements by them at meetings, and the possibility that Carluccio had called Councilwoman Joann Neylan “crazy” earlier in the meeting.

During her earlier remarks, Carluccio referenced a letter to the editor in the Westfield Leader regarding work Neylan had done with a constituent in the second ward. During her remarks, Carluccio said a word that has been said by multiple attendees to be either “crazy” or “praising” before saying “Mrs. Neylan.” Neylan had taken offense at the characterization of being called “crazy” by Carluccio, at one point interrupting Carluccio during her remarks to ask the audience.

“Did anyone hear it?” Neylan said.

“Did you call me crazy?” Neylan asked a few seconds later.

Several members of the audience responded that they heard the word “crazy” used. Carluccio insists that she used the word “praising.”

During Caruana’s remarks, Enclescu approached the rail separating the Council from the audience and said she had the letter to the editor Carluccio was referencing. Skibitsky asked Enclescu to sit down.

Carluccio started showing a picture of an April car accident at the stop light to Caruana during his remarks and commenting from the audience about the bullying comments.

“You have some nerve,” Carluccio said.

“I’m just getting started,” Caruana said in response.

“You’re out of order. Please sit down, you’re out of order,” Skibitsky said to Carluccio.

Skibitsky also permitted Caruana additional time over the 10 minutes allocated to speakers, saying it was from the interruption from the audience. During previous meetings, Skibitsky has been consistent in reminding Carluccio and Enclescu of the time limit.

“She can come here until hell freezes over and say whatever she likes,” Caruana said. “My point is, the manner in which she says it and what is implying of the character and integrity of the individuals on this Council is outrageous. If this occurred in a school, it would be menacing, threatening, bullying and it would be dealt with.”

Following the meeting, Caruana was being interviewed by Westfield Leader reporter Lauren Barr in the hallway separating the Council chamber from the Recreation Department and court office. Carluccio came up the two to address Caruana, showing him a photo of the April accident and saying that is part of why she is working on the removal of the light.

“It’s all about safety sir,” she said. “This has nothing to do with my property values. I am here for my neighbor.”

Carluccio also addressed Caruana’s comments during the Council meeting about her making comments about the character of the Council members, saying she has not done that. Caruana did not specify the comments he believes that Carluccio has made at past meetings. During past meetings, Carluccio has accused the Council of “ruining” Enclescu’s life and said the Council is “embarrassing yourselves.”

Carluccio told Caruana in the hallway that he did not like her message and her for delivering her message.

“I don’t like how you talk to me,” Caruana said. “I don’t like how you talk to me.”

“Who are you God?” Carluccio said in response. “You don’t like the way I talk to you.”

“You are a fraud. You are a bully. You are out of control,” Caruana said.

“What am I a fraud about? What am I a bully about?” Carluccio said.

“You are threatening people,” Caruana said.

“Who did I threaten,” Carluccio said.

“Your manner is threatening,” Caruana said.

“How is my manner threatening,” Carluccio said, before saying that she believed that Caruana was threatening her.

It was unclear if the exchange related to Carluccio’s comment during the Council meeting that she believes she could face retaliation for speaking out on the light. She told the Council that she makes sure to drive under the speed limit in Westfield to avoid being pulled over.

The heated exchange between the two brought a small crowd to watch in the hallway, including Enclescu, who sought to have Carluccio leave the hallway. A police officer who was in the meeting stood in the hallway, including moving to near the exchange. An unidentified person with a video camera started filming the scene from an open door to the parking before being asked to stop by a police officer. The individual could be seen continuing to film through the closed door.

Skibitsky started watching part of the scene from the Municipal Building’s rotunda. His presence caused the police officer to move to the mayor’s side. After Caruana left the exchange with Carluccio to answer a question from Barr, Carluccio addressed Skibitsky.

“When are you going to admit what you did to this woman is horrible?” Carluccio said.

Skibitsky turned and started walking away from Carluccio and towards his private office.

“If it was your house that light wouldn’t be there,” Carluccio said. “If it was someone you knew or cared about that light would not be there.”

Related Topics: Adina Enclescu, Andy Skibitsky, Joann Neylan, Maria Carluccio, and Sal Caruana

Big Hollywood Producer

7:34 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

I want the rights to this video! Looking for a new reality show about local NJ politics- Great drama and passion!
Better than the "housewives"! Does this woman have an agent! Can't wait for the second episode to see what happens next! Working title- "Mad Woman" or "Traffic Lights of New Jersey".......

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Quentin Tarantino

9:00 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

How about calling it "Political Hack Pops Out Of Politicians (Mayor) Pocket" Carauana wanted to be mayor and was TOLD by the Republican party that it wasn't his turn. Maybe he is setting his campaign up for when Skibitsky's term is up. Typical politics in this town. He was a plant. He set that woman up and then bully's her with his finger pointing. Tough guy.

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NR9

9:24 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

The key issue here is SAFETY. It's NOT about PROPERTY VALUE. It's about keeping pedestrians and motorists on that portion of Central from being injured or worse. I understand the Council's stance that, from time to time, the town must put up a sign or a speed bump or whatever, for the greater good and that, unfortunately, this will sometimes have a negative effect, imagined or otherwise, on a particular resident. I get that. And, that's the stance of the Council. For the purpose of this argument, the Council wants nothing more than for Ms. E and Ms. C to keep arguing that "property value" issue. The reason the Council likes them to focus on the property value argument is that it allows the Council to then spin it back against Ms. E and Ms. C, saying that "sometimes, one homeowner must take the hit for the common good the rest of the population." When spun that way, sure, what the Council says makes sense, and Ms. E and Ms. C, one could easily conclude, are two crazy ladies, upset in "perceiving" that their home values may have declined. There is NO DOUBT (!!) that the values of their homes have declined due to the light (not just the economy!). THAT'S BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE IN DANGER OF HAVING CARS CRASH INTO THEIR HOMES. That drops the pool of potential buyers and thus the value. The home value decline for Ms. E and Ms. C is a side point. The real issue is SAFETY. LIGHTS BELONG AT INTERSECTIONS - MOVE IT A FEW FEET NORTH BEFORE SOMEONE GETS RUN OVER!

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Adina Toescu-Enculescu

3:06 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Yes, you are right. The most important issue is SAFETY. As two near miss injuring or fatal accidents occurred on April 25 and on May 10 on the crosswalk while pedestrians including kids were crossing Central Avenue, no honest person could maintain that the unique crosswalk in the middle of the road is “the safest location” for it. On the other hand, five times during the last 5 months, different cars entered on my property, my driveway being confused with Clover Street, Everybody should recognize that it is not safe for my household.
Five minutes ago, a black Honda SUV could not stop at the traffic light line and stopped in front of my driveway 3-4 feet closer to the crosswalk.
This place is a tragedy waiting to happen.

NR9

9:32 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

It would be helpful if the Patch could set up a voting mechanism on the website with regards to this issue. EVERYONE I know thinks the light and corresponding white lines create an EXTREMELY DANGEROUS situation. It would be interesting to see where Patch readers stand:
(A) The light should be at the intersection of Central and Clover.
(B) The light is currently in a well-chosen location.

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NR9

12:13 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Well done with the unofficial poll. This will be interesting. And, great job with the website - I had not been aware of it. I now have it bookmarked. I think it's worthwhile that there is a less mainstream website out there for some less mainstream voices to be heard. I'm not saying I necessarily agree with all "less mainstream" opinions, but, I'm happy that we live in a country where a website like www.07090.blogspot.com can exist. Thanks!

Richard Clark

9:42 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

I'm glad Sal Caruana put this woman in her place. I'm tired of reading about this nonsense. The Town Council should be worrying about how we can improve safety in other areas of the town. How we can reduce costs. Howe we can make Westfield a better place to live. I't obviously a "not on my property" issue if she supposedly is bring in realtors. What do realtors have to do with safety?

I used to live in the Jefferson district and the kids had no place to cross. Now they do. This light makes it safer for the children.

I would be embarrassed if I were Carluccio. Based on the video, she is looking like a ranting lunatic ready to become undone.

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Gregory Kasko

10:06 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

The property value issue as well as the safety issue are two arguments that can be debated. The one issue that can't be debated is the one of how Mayor Skibitsky and some members of the Westfield Town Council have treated the citizens of Westfield. M. Carluccio and A. Enculecu were lied to when thay first appeared before the town council. They were told by Mayor Skibitsky that the project was a "County" project and to call the County. It has since been proven that the location of the pedestrian light and crosswalk, mid-block, was a concept brought forth by Westfield's engineering consultant Gordon Meth with the backing of the town council. Mayor Skibitsky has since acknowledged that the placement of the light off the corner of Clover and Central was in fact a decision made by Westfield. Mayor Skibitsky also advised me that any reports requested should be requested from Union County. I have not only obtained reports from Union County, but also uncovered those that were generated by Westfield's "experts" which the town did not offer up without the submission of an O.P.R.A. request. Mayor Skibitsky has used diverion as a means to deflect who was responsible for the placement of this project away from the original proposed location at the intersection of Central & Clover.

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Gregory Kasko

10:13 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Continued

Union County has suggested that the relocation of the light and crosswalk would not be difficult since the utilities are in place and all that would have to be done is to move the pedestrian light poles and crosswalk. The problem is cost. The County will not incur the cost because they have suggested that it was Westfield's request to place the light where it is now. The proof is in the correspondences I have obtained from Westfield's Town Administrator Jim Gildea and Union County's Engineer dated between 2006 and 2011. Once again, Mayor Skibitsky attempted to point everyone in the direction of Union County to seek answers to the placement of this mid-block crossing when the answers were right here in Westfield. Mayor Skibitsky had the answers all along. He continues to hide the answers by refusing to present Gordon Meth at a Town Council meeting stating he does not want to waste the taxpayer's money. Hasn't it already been wasted?

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Christopher Beil

2:28 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

It's just an inefficient and ineffective govenment. Westfield would do well to have all council seats contested in every election. Debate the issues. Not the mob versus the king.

RG

10:07 am on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Why does the mayor need a former councilman to defend him? Why does the mayor allow more than 10 minutes of time for his defense to speak, when others cannot. Obviously this benfits the mayor, but how does this benefit the taxpaying public? Very interesting seeing Sal C show up again in Westfield politics. I had one incident a few years ago when I requested assistance / advice from both Mayor Skibitsky and my then councilman (Caruana). Both were absolutley worthless and offered zero helpful advice (the mayor failed to even respond). Sal could not help me at all, but thought he did awondeful job and was due praise. I had hoped that he was no longer involved with local politics.

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francis

1:41 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Being a former councilman does not exclude Sal Caruana from voicing his opinion as a citizen of Westfield. Especially in decisions that he was involved in as a councilman. Please let the mayor and council focus their attention on other matters .

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Christopher Beil

1:48 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Westfield needs The Rock to come to these meetings, guys. Nobody knows what THE ROCK's been cookin'!

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Adina Toescu-Enculescu

2:19 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

I would like to clarify one thing. In the last night meeting, during her comments Maria Carluccio started to say “Praising Councilwoman Neylan…..” but she was stopped by Mrs. Neylan who understood “crazy” instead of “praising”.
True fact: Mrs. Carluccio held in her hand the Letter to the Editor “Thank you Councilwoman Neylan, For Spurring Removal of Tree ”published in The Westfield Leader” pg. 4 on May 12, 2011 with the intention to ask the Councilwoman ,as the article stated: to “take immediate action on a resident request” in the Central Avenue crosswalk –traffic light issue because it is such an unsafe spot and it is as undesirable in our neighborhood as so many residents (approximately 150) expressed their opinion. I showed to Mayor Skibitsky the piece of the newspaper clipped next to the article written by the Mayor himself on pg. 4 of “This is Westfield” May edition ,

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Adina Toescu-Enculescu

2:24 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

At the end of the last night Council meeting the things got out of hands when Mr. Carauna exploited a misunderstanding trying to discredit Mrs. Carluccio, and after the meeting when as everybody can read in the article and see in the video Mr.Carauna addressed to Mrs. Carluccio:
• “You are a fraud”.
• “You are a bully.”
• “You are out of control,” Caruana said
• I don’t like how you talk to me,” Caruana said.
• You are threatening people,” Caruana said
Some people could be more emotional, more passionate, but this lady did not insult anybody and did not deserve this treatment.
I had no idea who Mr. Carauana was, what he has been and what he envisions for the future but I have never imagined that a gentleman, especially a former or present official with high aspirations for the future should be capable to insult so terrible a resident of Westfield without any justification

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Carol

3:40 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Keep it up. I've been around for a long time and know that the Mayor and Council expect you to get tired after a couple of meetings. It brings a smile to my face to see that you're in there for the duration. Unfortunately, it has become so political that the powers that be are putting their (wrong) decision above safety. It's about time one of them should come down off of their throne and make the right decision and MOVE THE LIGHT!
P.S. after seeing the video of Sal Carauana, I can't believe he was a Councilman. He looked like an out of control monster.

Draft Kimmins

2:42 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Vicki Kimmins for Mayor- solves all problems.....

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Gregory Kasko

3:04 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Maria Carluccio has every right to question the integrity and character of the Mayor and some other members of the town council that have lied to her concerning who was responsible for the mid-block location of this pedestrian light and crosswalk. By initially evading the truth as to the town councils role in the whole process, Mayor Skibitsky has undermined the "transparency" that government preaches but does not practice.

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Jay Stevens

4:12 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Gregory Kasko- I don't think you are qualified to speak on matters of integrity... aren't you the ex-cop who was kicked off the force a few years back for sleeping on the job?

It seems as though the mayor and council are being completely transparent here and that they are performing their duties in the best interest of the town.

JS

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Gregory Kasko

4:48 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I retired from the police department in 2007 with all departmental charges dropped.
The accusations of sleeping on the job doesn't get anyone "kicked off the force"; just ask the other officers currently working, and retired, that have been subjected to the same accusations.

I was accused of lying during a departmental hearing. I said I wasn't sleeping and my accuser said I was. The Town needed to escalate their position and leverage themselves to combat my civil suit filed for violation of my rights when I reported to the Town Administrator Jim Gildea that employees of the police department had been illegally accessing computers to gain personal information on citizens against the parking decks as well as a member of the B.R.A.K.E.S. group.

The fact that I retired in good standing and collect a pension would refute any claim I was "kicked off the force" as you claim. If the Town had a case against me, they should have sought termination.

I am just as qualified as anyone to speak on matters of integrity when the facts obtained from the reports from the Union County engineer and Town of Westfield's consulting engineer contradict what Mayor Skibitsky and Councilman Ciarrocca have stated with regards to the location of the pedestrian light/crosswalk. Facts are facts, regardless of the integrity of the person exposing them. Please don't "shoot the messenger" as the Mayor has tried to do. Refute the facts of the message first.

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Jay Stevens

10:25 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

You state that 'sleeping on the job doesn't get anyone "kicked off the force"' and that is something I can't argue with because I am not from a law enforcement background. As a fifteen year resident of Westfield I can tell you that is deeply concerning that you were sleeping while you were supposed to be protecting me, my family, my friends and my neighbors. Not only did you put our lives in danger, you put the life of the officer who you failed to back up life in danger. Clearly you have no sense of what is right for this town since you apparently believe the safety of the residents is irrelevant based on your past actions.

PS- just because you retired "in good standing" doesn't mean that you didn't break the law. You got a deal and you took it, simple as that.

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Gregory Kasko

10:52 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Jay, I didn't say you couldn't argue anything. As a 38 year resident I can tell you that the Westfield Police Department is staffed with officers that would never put the lives of Westfield citizens in danger. The officer that you claim I failed to back up, had backup on the night in question. In fact, it was btoadcast over the radio that another patrol unit was going to back the other officer up. When an administration can't get complaints on an officer from the outside (citizens) they will generate them from within to try and get rid of them. Former chief Barney Tracy and Town Administrator Jim Gildea tried their best to fire me as did current police chief Parizeau and Captain Wayman. They are mired in their own problems now with ongoing investigations looking into their alleged misconduct. At least the Union County Prosecutors Office and NJ Attorney General are involved. No way for the town to buy or bully their way out this time. Also, you use the term "break the law", what law is it that I was suspected of breaking that you refer to? I believe that the safety of our residents is paramount and thats why I routinely put 75 to 100 miles a night on my vehicle riding through the residential district I was assigned.
Jay, it is clear what your agenda is. I would rather focus on the topic of the pedestrian traffic light. You can continue to "shoot the messenger" in your attempt to silence the message.

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Jay Stevens

9:50 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

I'm sorry, Greg, but it really seems as though you are holding a grudge against the Town since your dismissal and that is why you are putting so much effort into attacking Mayor Skibitsky and the Council. I understand that you are bitter because you feel that you were mistreated but it is time to move on and stop with these outlandish conspiracy theories- it's getting old and your extreme bias is obvious.

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NR9

10:13 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

@Jay Stevens...

It is clear that you don’t like Mr. K.

But, WHICH of the TWO LOCATIONS do you think is SAFEST for the traffic light and walkway?
The current MID-BLOCK location or the CLOVER/CENTRAL INTERSECTION.

Please support your response with facts/observations that are on topic. Please refrain from character attacks on the parties involved.

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Gregory Kasko

10:17 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Jay,

What you perceive and what is reality are two different isuues. If what you perceive were true, I would have embarked on what I am doing immediately after I retired in 2007. It wasn't until after I met with Mayor Skibitsky in the fall of 2010 to discuss concerns I had as a Westfield resident and retired police officer that I decided to get involved in that which I belive I could be of some assistance. During my meeting with Mayor Skibitsky and his legal rep Robert Cochren, I was categorized as a "former disgruntled employee". I corrected Mr. Cochren and told him I was a disgusted resident. This meeting took place after I had witnessed, at a council meeting, how Adina Enculescu and Maria Carluccio were being treated by the Mayor and certain members of the Town Council. I was once bitter about the circumstances surrounding my forced retirement. Since then, I have moved on but in doing so I want to try and make a difference in how town goverment operates. I believe that Mayor Skibitsky is a good person but don't like what he has become as a politician. I would gladly shake his hand outside of the "ring of politics". However, for now I wish to continue supporting my fellow residents in their efforts to seek a government that is truly a representative of all the people and for all of the people and not just serving some of the people.

Richard Clark

4:02 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Gregory Kasko. I just did a keyword search to find out about you. You call for evading the truth, but according to the Westfield Leader from 2007, you don't exactly seem to be a "model citizen" yourself.:

"The town suspended Mr. Kasko with pay on July 7, 2006 for making “false statements of material facts to
superior officers during an administrative hearing while under oath” during a disciplinary hearing held in
May, as well as for statements allegedly made during a police investigation
conducted by superior officers.

The town previously suspended Mr. Kasko for four days on charges that he demonstrated “arrogant and disrespectful behavior” towards Mr. Gildea and for publicly criticizing the actions of former Police Chief Bernard Tracy during an altercation in the town administrator’s office on November 3, 2004.

He was suspended six days for sleeping on the job and failing to back up an officer on a motor vehicle stop
in January 29, 2006. Mr. Gildea said the agreement is “global” and “takes care of all outstanding
matters between Kasko vs.Westifeld"

Why should anyone listen to you? According to th suit, you made false staements in the past, start alteractions yourself and sleep on the job? Why should anyone believe what you have to say?

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NR9

4:36 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

For all we know, Mr. Kasko also hates cuddly cute kittens and he cheated on a spelling test when he was in 1st grade. But, that would not prove that this ridiculous middle of the block location for the pedestrian light and cross walk is a good location. Please, keep on topic. When people start blasting the messenger like that, you have to wonder if it's because they don't have any strong arguments supporting their position. I do not know Mr. Kasko personally nor do I know much of his past, prior to this particular issue becoming an issue. But, I do believe he has made PLENTY of valid points on this topic. For that matter... some people seem to not like Ms. E and Ms. C's personalities and public speaking skills. If you can separate out some of the screaming/passion and, CALMLY, listen to the points they are making, many people would agree that these are valid points. It's certainly much easier though to jump on the Town Council's bandwagon of characterizing Ms. E and Ms. C as "those two crazy ladies". They are NOT crazy at all - they are simply very passionate about this issue and I guarantee that most Westfield residents, if put in the same position, would be just as passionate.

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Christopher Beil

7:58 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

"Gregory Kasko. I just did a keyword search to find out about you. You call for evading the truth, but according to the Westfield Leader from 2007, you don't exactly seem to be a "model citizen" yourself."

I did an analysis over the last six months of the Westfield Leader's reporting style. And by and large, it skews the actual events of the council sessions towards the Skibitsky Administration. Now that's fine, that's the Leader's prerogative as a newspaper, but there is not much alternative out there. It's a center-right newspaper like the Wall Street Journal. It's allied with the Westfield Republican Machine.

Gregory Kasko

4:37 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Richard Clark,

You forget to give the outcome of the departmental charges levied in my case. The charges were dismissed and I retired in good standing. I am proud to have served my community. Its unfortunate that the town chose to offer a settlement but its understandable why they did so. The actions of former police chief Bernard Tracy as well as the testimony of current police chief John Parizeau and police captain David Wayman at my hearing was no doubt the deciding factor in the town dropping all departmental charges. Their testimony was not credible. I find it interesting that you Richard, just like Mayor Skibitsky, attack the messenger instead of the message being brought forth. You evade the facts. The facts are what they are and when one can't refute the facts they attack the person exposing them. This issue is about the pedestrian traffic light and crosswalk, not about frivolous departmental chargess levied by a corrupt ex-chief or his followers in an attempt to keep a lid on the corruption within the WPD.

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Sally McBride

12:24 am on Wednesday, June 15, 2011

I am not a lawyer, can someone explain the difference to me between "charges were dismissed" and "proven innocent". Nice to hear that the people in charge of the police in Westfield cannot give a credible testimony.

Richard Clark

5:33 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

I'm just going by what I read. I've been reading Patch for months and recently joined the site. I've been in Westfield for over 10 years. I'm no traffic expert, but I've never accidentally turned into this driveway or see how it is an accident waiting to happen. South and Central is much more difficult to navigate, has much more traffic and is more prone to accident that this location. The owners of the property are beating a dead horse. I read this site because I'm interested in the town and what is going on. Most residents could care less and this constant banter at Town Hall meetings does not serve anyone's agenda in a positive way.

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Lynn

10:03 pm on Wednesday, May 25, 2011

There are only two crazy people in all of this. Ms. C and Ms. E. Move on already get a life!

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Adina Toescu-Enculescu

12:39 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Ms. Lynn, Nice meeting you via this site. Do you really know me so well? Do you know all the town residents? Do you really care of anybody? I do what you say; I move and I get a life, a decent life. What would you do if you found one day your home defaced and devalued, and most important, if you were afraid that any moment you could get your house or your cars destroyed by somebody who drove by mistake on your driveway confusing it with a street? It happened to see cars entering my property 5 times in the last 5 months and never before in the last 30 years. What would you do if you assisted much too often to cars not being able to stop but on or just near a crosswalk when pedestrians are crossing? It happened to me twice today at 3pm and 3.15 pm. Would you feel safe? The whole thing is a mistake and should be repaired. Not recognizing a mistake and not willing to fix it does not solve the problem and bad consequences could happen anytime.

Lynn

7:08 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Your grossly exaggerating the situation. We all have our complaints life is not fair or perfect. You may not understand why the light was placed where it was but the fact is that is where it has been placed. We can't help there are stupid people in this world and they can't figure out what is a driveway and what is a street and that they are supposed to stop at a red light but they will be here on this earth reguardless of where the crossing light is.

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NR9

7:34 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Lynn wrote: "the fact is that is where it has been placed."
Yes, it is. The question is, why? Why was it placed there?

Lynn wrote: "We can't help there are stupid people in this world and they can't figure out what is a driveway and what is a street"
Yes, there are lots of stupid people in this world. Really, tons of them.
The lines/light placement make it just as easy for smart people to make that mistake and drive into the driveway/house, thinking it is a road... especially if done at night, in the rain, with distractions from other passengers in the car, etc.

(Assuming they live to tell the story), we could interview the next 10 people who, while traveling north on Central, mistake the driveway for a street and turn in. Then, we can determine if they are stupid or not. I suspect that many will be smart people and not all will be stupid people. I could be wrong. But, I think smart people can easily make this mistake too.

The light belongs a few feet to the north at the intersection!
With 10,900 households in Westfield, it's very easy, if you're one of the 10,899 households this did not happen to, to simply trash talk the 1 affected homeowner. You might truly think the situation poses no danger and certainly, you have a right to that opinion. But, there are a lot of people out there who, since it isn't there house, are conveniently jumping on the bandwagon against this affected homeowner but who, if it were there house, would be putting up a fight too.

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NR9

7:38 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Sorry, meant to say "their" instead of "there".

Lynn

8:34 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I did not "trash" talk anyone. Except for the anonymous "stupid" people out there in the world. I simply cannot imagine how in the world someone could mistake a driveway for an actual street. They don't even look the same or have the same dimensions. Besides most of the time there is a car parked in the driveway. Would this not be a really good giveaway? To answer your question the reason the pedestrian light was placed where it is was a result of many surveys, inquiries and conclusions by people who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to this type of situation.

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NR9

8:55 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Lynn said: I simply cannot imagine how in the world someone could mistake a driveway for an actual street.
Reply: When traveling north, the white line painted across the road is the same kind of white line normally painted at intersections with traffic lights or stop signs. The pole and light above also make it look like a regular intersection. These are things people are used to seeing at intersections. While most people in Westfield are now aware of the situation and won't make that turn, there are many motorists who drive north on Central everyday who are not familiar with this controversy and who, very easily, especially if distracted by talk from passengers, music on the radio, etc or with poor visibility due to rain/snow/night, etc. could easily mistake the white line and light for an intersection if they are already moving at 20-30 m.p.h. and slam right in.

Lynn said: Besides most of the time there is a car parked in the driveway. Would this not be a really good giveaway?
Reply: Yes, that would be a great giveaway. If she keeps her car there at ALL times, the problem will be solved. But, what if she gets hungry and wants to venture out to the rest of the world for food and all kinds of other stuff?

Lynn said: "by people who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to this type of situation."
Reply: Just because someone holds a particular job title does not mean they are infallible. Even the best people in their fields make mistakes.

Richard Clark

8:36 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I don't know Enculescu and Carluccio to comment on their mental status, but based on their comments and the video, they are looking extremely foolish with their exaggerations. They are making a mockery of the system. The light is in place. If there is a legal route for them to take then they should pursue it, not rant and rave each week like lunatics. My asssumption is there is no legal argument againt the Town or County so they have to rely upon their useless banter.

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Southide W

9:25 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Richard, as much as I don't agree with them either, no one should be questioning anyone's mental state or even suggest that it is in question. It isn't right, especially since this is a public board and you don't know who reads this or how they interpret posts. They have a right to protest the decision and express themselves. This is a democracy.

Lynn, I agree with you on your question about why people would mistake the driveway for an intersection. I drive this road every day two times a day and never, NEVER have mistaken the driveway for an intersection, even after the installment of the light. Even if I did, I only would have made the mistake once. I have also never seen anyone else attempt to make a turn into the driveway.

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NR9

10:55 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Southside Transplant wrote: "I drive this road every day two times a day and never, NEVER have mistaken the driveway for an intersection.. Even if I did, I only would have made the mistake once."

Reply: If you could make this mistake "once" then so could others, especially those not from Westfield who are not familiar with this issue.

Southside Transplant wrote: "I drive this road every day two times a day...I have also never seen anyone else attempt to make a turn into the driveway."

Reply: In driving by two times a day, at, let's call it 25 m.p.h., let's say you're at that location, observing other motorists, for about 5 seconds twice a day, for a total of 10 seconds per day. 60 seconds per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 24 hours per day = 86,400 seconds per day. This would suggest that you are drawing your conclusion from a sample size of about 10/86,400ths of a day, which works out to about 1/100th of 1% of a day. Not a very convincing sample size.

Richard Clark

9:43 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I didn't mean to come across that way. I was replying to the comment of "there are only two crazy people in all of this. Ms. C and Ms. E." posted by Lynn. They are crazy in their actions and that is all. I understand that they are upset, but the method they are using is not very positive.

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NR9

11:11 am on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I've read a lot of character attacks on Ms. C and Ms. E as PEOPLE. But, what I have NOT SEEN AT ALL are well thought out points made in a convincing way that INTELLIGENTLY lists/discusses the issue as follows:

Light/crosswalk at INTERSECTION of Central and Clover - Advantages and disadvantages.
vs.
Light/crosswalk at MID-BLOCK of Central - Advantages and disadvantages.

Does anybody have a copy of that report from the consultant who supposedly did that analysis? Does Patch have a copy that can be posted online?

It would be very easy to just leave the light/crosswalk where it is but, like many people making comments, I feel it has created a very dangerous situation. My motivation for posting comments is that I do not want to see anyone get hurt from an unnecessary traffic accident involving motorists not familiar with the area/issue. I'm not motivated in any way to increase the value of anyone's home (though I do think it's an unfair hit to the resident affected). I am strongly motivated to do what I can to potentially keep pedestrians (and motorists) in the area safe.

Please stop the attacks on Ms. C and Ms. E as people - Please keep on topic with the issue itself! Facts, measurements, statistical support, data supporting your points, etc. The personal attacks on them are getting old.

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Gregory Kasko

12:14 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Go to the following link to view the Traffic Warrant Analysis. The Warrant Analysis Conclusion specifically states the location for the device.

http://07090.blogspot.com/2011/03/hot-topic-central-ave-pedestrian.html#more

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NR9

12:25 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Thanks for the link. The 3 page report says the light should be at Central and Clover. Was there a subsequent study/report concluding that it should be further south in the middle of the block?

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Gregory Kasko

12:45 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

To my knowledge, there are no other reports dated after the Warrant Analysis Report. The Warrant Analysis was conducted June 7th and 8th, of 2007. The only other report uncovered is a report by the Town of Westfield's consulting engineer Gordon Meth which is dated July 26, 2005. This report titled "Traffic Calming and Safety improvements for Eight (8) Locations lists one of the locations as "Central and Clover.

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NR9

12:50 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

So how did the June 7-8, 2007 analysis and subsequent report concluding that a light should be placed at the Clover and Central intersection translate to the light/crosswalk being placed further south in the middle of the block??? Is there any documentation anywhere showing the thought process that takes us from the expert's conclusion (WHICH I AGREE WITH - I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A LIGHT/CROSSWALK AT CLOVER AND CENTRAL) to what actually ended up being constructed mid-block?

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Gregory Kasko

1:14 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

That NR9 is why we, along with Councilwoman Kimmins, have asked the Mayor to have the town's "expert" and traffic safety consultant Gordon Meth appear at a town council meeting; to answer all the unanswered questions. None of the individuals on Councilman Mark Ciarrocca's Citizens Traffic Safety Advisory Committee were experts in the field of traffic safety and only one of the 6-7 committee members lived in the immediate area of Central and Clover. The Mayor refuses to have Gordon Meth attend a meeting citing "a waste of money" even after I offered to pay for 2 hours of his time 0r $350. (Estimating his hourly rate at approx. $175/hr.)

A resident of Francis Terr. that was very vocal in having this light located off the corner and placed mid-block no longer lives in town, she moved to Delaware. However, another resident (Cedar St) was also in oposition of the light being located at the intersection.

One question not answered by the Mayor or Ciarrocca is "Why was the Westfield Police Dept.'s traffic safety bureau told not to attend the meetings that were held on this issue?" Did they suggest the light be located at the intersection? Having retired from the Westfield Police Dept. I have intimate knowledge as to the who, what, where, when, and how's of this issue.

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NR9

1:20 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

It all sounds very shady. Well, keep up the good work. There are many Westfield residents who fully support all you are doing to get rid of this very dangerous situation. And, I'm sure many of them will be voting in the next election. Thanks!

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NR9

1:24 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Kasko: The Mayor refuses to have Gordon Meth attend a meeting citing "a waste of money" even after I offered to pay for 2 hours of his time 0r $350. (Estimating his hourly rate at approx. $175/hr.)

Have you thought about hiring Gordon Meth directly for 2 hours of his time? You can videotape his comments and post the video online or, maybe he can prepare a short 1-2 page document explaining his position on the topic?

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Gregory Kasko

1:43 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

That has been considered but I, as well as Maria Carluccio and Adina Enculescu, would like Mr. Meth to appear at a council meeting so that any questions that might arise out of Mr. Meth's answers could be directed back to the council. It is better to have all the parties involved present that way the "finger pointing" of who decided what could be put to rest. Also, with the local news outlets and TV36 filming, nothing would get lost in translation.

Bob Shermann

12:23 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

When is the evaluation period completed. Did the Mayor ever say that he wouldn't review this after 90 days?

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Gregory Kasko

12:35 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Mayor Skibitsky stated that after 90 days, the location would be reviewed. He also followed that up with stating he did not think the light and crosswalk would be moved after the review.

At least the Mayor is transparent about his bias.

Southide W

12:43 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

The mayor said that at the time the light was installed, if not before. He was merely expressing his opinion that he didn't believe the data would show that a move would be necessary. Of course he would be biased, since he worked on the plan. I would hope he would have had the confidence in the decision to back it up. That doesn't mean that if presented with data that shows he was wrong that he wouldn't be big enough to make the change. Mr. Kasko, it is you who we can see right through.

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Gregory Kasko

12:58 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

It was after the light was installed that he made that statement, I was at the meeting and it is documented in the newspapers and on TV36. Despite your attacks on the messenger, I will continue to present the facts and let them speak for themselves. If you can refute the facts, so be it.

On a side note, I am a "southside transplant" having been raised on the northside of town and now residing on the southside. I though, choose to use my real name in the name of transparency.

Southide W

1:08 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Because you have your name to clear, Mr. Kasko and the more you make the Town Council look bad, the better you look.

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NR9

1:13 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I don't know Mr. Kasko, never met him, don't know what he looks like, where he is from, or what his favorite ice cream flavor is. But, I have noticed he seems very knowledgeable on this topic and he has made many excellent points. Please stay on topic. The character attacks suggest the lack of valid points on the actual topic - intersection vs. mid-block.

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Gregory Kasko

1:23 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Southside Transplant
I don't have to clear my name, nor am I trying to make the Town Council look bad. The Mayor and some others on the Town Council certainly don't need my help in that area as the facts speak for themselves. I am merely attempting to help out Adina Enculescu after I witnessed how she and Maria Carluccio were treated bt the Mayor and Councilman Mark Ciarrocca at a meeting I attended in the fall of 2010. As a retired police officer and a municipal engineering inspector, I have some knowledge on the issue. I do question your position on the issue Southside Transplant.

Southide W

1:23 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

But NR9, isn't it you who almost made this mistake more than once? From your concerns about driver distractions, I'd like to know what goes on in your car that you are such a distracted driver. The concerns you express would happen regardless of where that light is placed. Anyone crossing that light regardless of where it is placed could be hit - it is a busy road. If a car travelling so close to the one in front of it that if cannot stop happens where the light is now, then it can happen anywhere. If a driver is distracted by a passenger, then it will happen regardless of where the light is. If property values were a huge concern or the fear of cars running into their homes, then anywhere on Central Ave would present that risk. Cars can run into any one of those homes or businesses from East Broad St down to teh Parkway entrance.

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NR9

1:40 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Yes. That is exactly right. I did almost make this mistake more than once. That's why I think the light location, at mid-block, was a mistake. That's why I, like many others (including the consultant hired by the town), think the light should be at the intersection, where lights generally belong.

Well, as for what goes on in my car... just the usual stuff that goes on in lots of peoples' cars- young children talking/playing as young children do, radio playing music (at reasonable volume), chit chat when transporting other adult passengers - talking about current events, the weather, stuff like that.

Yes, such distractions as these (and rain/snow/wet leaves in the Fall/nighttime) always have and always will, potentially, add some element of danger to driving - regardless of where one is driving - whether it be on the streets of New York City or while driving in rural America.

BUT... when such a silly mid-block traffic light with white lines painted as they are is added to the mix, the combination adds a level of danger that could cause accident/injury/death.

I totally agree with you that Central Avenue is a busy road and that anyone crossing a road this busy can be hit. That's why a light was needed. But, the light was/is needed where the consultant's report suggested that it be placed - at the INTERSECTION of Clover and Central.

Gregory Kasko

1:38 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

The Traffic Warrant Analysis conclusion contradicts the location of this pedestrian light and crosswalk. The placement of the light, mid-block, was at the request of the Town of Westfield and not Union County as Mayor Skibitsky had intimated and has since "flip flopped" on the issue. The need for the pedestrian light and crosswalk is not in question. The current location of the light and crosswalk, and the process that took place to move the light from the original proposed location of Central and Clover to the current mid-block location is what is being questioned. The Mayor and Town Council never expected to be questioned on this issue.

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Southide W

1:43 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Mr Kasko, of course you have knowledge of the issue and how the town works - you were a part of it until you were caught. You then turned on those who were doing the same things or worse. You would not have been retired if there wasn't a settlement.We know the myriad of reasons why towns settle. My opinion is that both you and the town had things on each other and to save expenses and reputations, there was a settlement.

All one has to do is look at the link where you linked the voting to see the real motives and intentions. It is more than just supporting these two women. It is a gossip mongering site desinged to expose and to make select people look bad.

Now, my position on this issue? The light is in an unusual spot. I would not want it in front of my house or driveway. I'd be angry, too. I know the feeling because my neighbors and I went before a previous Town Council to express our concerns about something we felt would impact our quality of life and home values. We were dismissed and they voted against our wishes. Now,years later, the problem is still as bad. The fact in this situation is that anyone who buys a home on Central Ave knows that there are risks involved. The light had to go somewhere. Let the decision stand, express oneself in a respectful and decent manner, keep God and the Bible out of arguments, stop the ranting and raving and behave like adults (even though it is their 1st amendment right to express oneself as one sees fit).

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Gregory Kasko

4:52 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Southside Transplant

Actually, it wasn't until after I had reported to Town Administrator Jim Gildea that illegal access of police dept.computers to obtain background information on Westfield residents by Westfield Police Dept employees that I got caught doing anything. I took an oath to "protect and serve" and if it meant protecting Westfield residents, including yourself, from the illegal accessing of personal information, any officer with the information I had should report it. The only warning I would give them is to be careful of anything they report to Town Admin Jim Gildea without an attorney present.

Southide W

1:44 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

NR9, then maybe your drivers license should revoked and you should be re-tested.

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NR9

1:56 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

What did I do that was illegal? Having young children talking in the back seat is not illegal. Nor is talking with other passengers about current events, the weather, etc. And, listening to the radio while driving is not illegal either. And, FYI - I am an extremely safe driver - NEVER been in an accident since I started driving (25 years plus ago). And, I always drive the speed limit.

Please, enough with the character attacks on others. Why do you think mid-block is a superior location to the intersection? WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A LIGHT. But, what, specifically, is it about the mid-block location, that you think makes it so much safer than the intersection?

Please stay on topic.

Southide W

2:08 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

NR9, I am not necessarily saying the current location is more safe. There is no proof that it is less safe, except these silly anecdotal stories and "what-if" scenarios, including the ones you are writing about. If you were such a safe driver and alert as you should be when you are behind the wheel, you wouldslow downas you approach the first flashing yield sign, then the following yield sign and if it is blinking red, the light above the road. Also, you would never have almost turned into the driveway once nevermind twice.

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Southide W

2:16 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Mr Kasko, I am not naive enough to think that you were the only one and that abuses have been and probably still are going on in a fraternal, patriarchal and unionized environment like this. It is the dark side of this kind of organizational culture. It often occurs in public orgnizations where the leadership has been monopolized by a political party, group of individuals or a particular individual for too long. Our town is not immune, but I do not want to excuse any illegal, unethical or bad behavior by anyone. My issue with the way you expose it, Mr. Kasko, is that you were as much a part of it as anyone and to give the impression that you are somehow better than they are is not right. It was your duty to report it, but you were guilty too.

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Gregory Kasko

2:24 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Perhaps you don't like the way it is being exposed because you are either part of it or are affiliated in some way with someone being exposed just like what is being exposed with regards to the light/crosswalk issue.

I am not better than anyone nor am I a member of the "blue wall/code of silence." Never was, even when I wore the uniform. It was a job, not a lifestyle. You take an oath when you become a police officer. Nobody is above the law.

blah

3:39 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I am so tired of this story. It is just impossible to mistake that driveway for a road. Does anything else go on at Council meetings or is it just this over and over?

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NR9

4:25 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Very easy and convenient to say if you're not the house affected.

If you're not too tired, and you'd like to explain all the reasons why you think the MID-BLOCK location is superior to the INTERSECTION of Clover and Central, I'm sure many Patch readers would appreciate it.

If you do reply, please provide FACTS supporting your position and not character attacks against Ms. C, Ms. E, or any other Patch commenters.

Southide W

3:46 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Mr. Kasko, I don't know where that came from, but without knowing me, you are left to conjecture. I am not affliated in any way with the town doings other than living here for so many years. Truth be told, I don't have a very high regard for those in elected public positions of any kind. Politics or political positions turn even the best people ugly. My bias is that, while they give their time to serve the public, they do so mostly for themselves and their self esteem - very much more for selfish motives that they try to play off as altruism and selflessness. Doesn't matter whether the position is a BOE member, Town official, city, county, state or federal government representative

I value the work Westfield police and firefighters do. In the worst case scenario, both will put their lives on the line to save mine. With that said, I have often seen the ugly behavior from some "men in blue" here in Westfield. Some of them, quite frankly do seem to think they are above the law. When I am offended, I think of two times when the police helped me out in a situation when they did not have to.

If I was affiliated with the way things are in this town, it would only be because I, like most people in this town looked the other way rather than fight.

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francis

4:27 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

This will not go away.

What a cast of characters.

A disgruntled, shameless ex-cop, who should have been fired for dereliction of duty, but insted gamed the legal system and the tax payers of Westfield for a retirement package, willing to latch on to any issue that would place the current and previous town administations in a bad light.

A ranting woman, throwing tantrums like a spoiled child that did not get their way.

A homeowner on the busiest street in Westfield claiming that there is some sort of conspiracy in the placement of a stop light intended to aid school children crossing this busy thoroughfare.

And me, a long time, tax paying, Westfield resident watching the town council getting dragged through the mud by this bunch when there are many more pressing issues within town to deal with.

What's next?

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Gregory Kasko

5:03 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Francis,

If anyone gamed the legal system it is the Town of Westfield. My suit was filed long before the frivolous charges were levied, that the town hoped would assist them in terminating me. It was better to settle than to open a "Pandora's Box" on all the other issues being covered up. The one mistake they made was that in their "boiler plate" agreement, there was no confidentiality clause and I am free to speak on matters of which I have knowledge of that they would soon like me to forget. Some might say what happened to me was not fair, others will disagree. I believe it was a blessing in disguise.

NR9

4:44 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Many Patch readers have voted so far. Out of 59 votes yesterday and today, approximately 80% agree with the traffic safety engineer hired by the town who said that THE INTERSECTION of Clover and Central (not mid-block) is the best place for the light and crosswalk. It looks like Ms. C and Ms. E might have a lot more supporters out there than the Town Council would like to believe.

For those who have not voted, here is the link again.
www.07090.blogspot.com (poll is at the top right of the website page).
The choices are whether or not you think the best place for the light and crosswalk are
(A) at the current MID-BLOCK location or
(b) at the INTERSECTION of Clover and Central.

And please stop the attacks on Kasko. Regardless of what you think of him, his past, what he may or may not have done, etc., it's in our town's best interest that we focus on the issue and related facts. Even if you don't like Kasko, Ms. C and Ms. E as the messengers, please read and consider their factual comments. Not doing so is a disservice to yourself, your fellow Westfield residents and motorists/pedestrians who go by the location each and every day. Please... focus on SAFETY and FACTS and constructive observations of the location. Please don't stoop to 3rd grade lunchroom behavior.

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Southide W

5:02 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

NR9, please be sure to remind everyone that this "poll" is not scientific or official. The question is phrased in a biased way to begin with and one person can can vote several times (I was successful in casting different votes for each option several times). This trash site also attracts those who see one viewpoint, so even the voting is biased. I also hope that issues like this are not decided by a popular vote. Even if 59 people voted, so what? The census of this town is roughly 29,500 people. That means .2% of the population is represented here and that only .16% are in favor of moving the light. I don't issues like these decided by people who are not experts in traffic study, public saftey, urban planning, etc. even if 100% of a statistically representative sample were collected. I will laugh out loud if I hear Ms Carluccio or anyone else use the stats of this poll at the next meeting to support the cause of moving the light.

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NR9

5:54 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

Yes, I agree with you completely that this poll is not scientific and not official. And, yes, I fully agree with you that, in general, those who tend to read TFOTM blog regularly probably tend to have a certain mindset in general. I absolutely agree with you. I had asked that Patch create such a polling place on its website and it appears, for reasons unknown to me - maybe technological, maybe otherwise, I don't know - that the Patch is not setting up such a polling place. So, without that preferable way of doing it (I'd much prefer a Patch or Westfield Leader sponsored poll as it would add more credibility to polling results, we are left with, as the best possible alternative to get a "rough sense" of how people in Westfield feel on the issue, a link from Patch (which is read by many residents) to this TFOTM polling place. Yes, it's not perfect but it's ok. As for people being able to vote twice or not... well, I do not intend to do that. I'm sorry to have learned that you did. I'm going at this with an open and objective mind. Seriously, if the people cast more votes for mid-block than intersection or if people post GOOD and WELL-THOUGHT OUT REASONS on the Patch as to why they think MID-BLOCK location is preferable to INTERSECTION location, I will seriously, with an open mind, re-think my position. But, I have not seen a single good argument in favor of mid-block location as opposed to intersection location.

Gregory Kasko

5:18 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

You can vote once. The site recognizes the IP address of the voter and will allow one vote.
I don't believe that the entire population of Westfield would concern themselves with this issue so to expect the entire population to vote is ludicrous.
The question was phrased "Locate the Central Ave. Pedestrian Light and Crosswalk"........and gives two choices. How is that biased?
The site has attracted teachers, lawyers, doctors, police officers, firemen, council members, other town employees, "soccer moms", and the list goes on.
The use of satire, sarcasm, innuendo and facts have all contributed to the success of the site.
When facts are exposed and they can't be refuted, there are those that will attack the messenger and ignore the message.

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Southide W

5:28 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

You're assuming I voted from the same computer. Whether or not it is realistic that the whole town would vote on this while valid, does not mean you don't need a statistically significant sample. You know full well, that there is an inherent bias or affiliation of philosophy in the people who go to your site. One markets to target a particular audience. I am not saying you don't have facts buried in there, but the data you present is one sided. That's why you don't see them in more respectable places.

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cfa07090

8:34 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

wow, does this stuff go on at every council meeting? i actually feel really badly for the mayor & councilmen & woman who have to listen to this ranting and raving.
ms carluccio, you've been heard, you're message has been delivered, it's time to admit defeat and just stop the insanity. until you have a new tactic or message, you are starting (?!) to sound like an unhinged lunatic.
as far as mr.caruana is concerned, he sincerely lowered himself to ms. carluccio's level and it was incredibly unattractive. not cool to lose control like that, and then to bandy about the "threatening" term for the benefit of the police offer was disingenuous. would not vote for him for mayor based solely on that performance (not that he's running, right?).
i think ms.carluccio would be a welcome addition to the real housewives of nj cast -- the screeching, the finger in your face pointing, the "i got your back" mentality; except for that house on central ave, she could be one of those RHONJ ladies!

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Mike

11:52 pm on Thursday, May 26, 2011

I'm a Jefferson School Dad who is very nervous every time I cross at the new light. I'm especially nervous when I cross with my kids.

To all the people who don't believe how an accident can happen at this light, I know there has been one major accident that required an ambulance (I saw it myself as I was about 7-8 cars behind the accident on my way home). I believe there has been at least one more accident as well.

Also, my scientific analysis goes something like this. I ride my bike with/or without my kids almost everyday and have crossed at that light almost everyday since it's been working. I would say that 50% of the time at least one car blows through the light when it's red.

It's terrifying when my kids are standing with me.

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Mike

12:12 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

To just add a quick note to my post above. IMHO, the problem is that people don't expect a light that isn't at an intersection. Thus, when they aren't expecting to stop, often they don't. I've seen it many, many times already.

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Christopher Beil

12:40 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

The issue here is simple: the Town Council allows this debate to consume about 90-120 minutes each session. Then they pass all resolutions and ordinances by voice vote in 5-10 minutes, and adjourn. There is no chance for education or debate on specific resolutions related to property demolition or ordinances relating to town matters of all different categories.

From a legislative perspective, this does the Town a disservice by blocking debate and questions about these other resolutions and ordinances.

Once again, who benefits?

What would happen if the US Congress met for 5 minutes once a month and passed every law they had agreed to in non-public committee sessions by a quick voice vote? People would become suspicious of what those laws actually did.

Just sayin'.

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NR9

9:13 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Mike wrote: "I'm a Jefferson School Dad... To all the people who don't believe how an accident can happen at this light, I know there has been one major accident that required an ambulance... I believe there has been at least one more accident as well. I have crossed at that light almost everyday since it's been working. I would say that 50% of the time at least one car blows through the light when it's red. The problem is that people don't expect a light that isn't at an intersection. Thus, when they aren't expecting to stop, often they don't. I've seen it many, many times already."

This is a VERY helpful comment. IT IS ON TOPIC. It is NOT, like so many other comments, a character attack on Ms.E/Ms.C/Mr.K.

I find it interesting that many comments in support of a light at the INTERSECTION are like this one by Mike whereas many comments in support of a light at MID-BLOCK are character attacks with no further support.

The issue is NOT whether you like or don't like Ms.E/Ms.C/Mr.K
The issue is... Which of the following TWO OPTIONS is the SAFEST and WHY do you support one of these locations more than the other?
(a) Current MID-BLOCK location.
OR
(b) INTERSECTION of CLOVER/CENTRAL.

That's it. That's all that should be commented on.
This SHOULD NOT be a contest of whether or not you like or don't like particular people involved.
Those who attack the messenger are probably doing so because they are unable to come up with solid evidence to attack the message!

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Southide W

10:15 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

if it is determined that the current location of the light is more dangerous than at the intersection, then I would support the move. There isn't any proof that the light is less safe than if it were moved. Attributing the cause of the accident that occurred because one driver was too close to the car in front of him/her automatically to the light is suiting the desires of those who are bound and determined to get it moved no matter what the facts say.

I have seen accidents almost happen every day along Central Ave. I have seen drivers pull out into oncoming traffic from the side roads (including Clover) and then stop suddenly to make the first turn off the street. I'd be willing to bet that even if the light were moved, there would still be an accident at the light. Would you be so willing to blame any accident that would occur there to the placementof the light? What about the accidents that happen on Central and Sycamore/Clifton? That is an intersection.

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Gregory Kasko

10:30 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Southside Transplant,

The Mayor has adamantly insisted that the mid-block location of the pedestrian light & crosswalk is in "the safest location" without offering any expert proof or written documentation. I know, because I have asked for the information. The reports and documentation I have obtained do not make reference to this location as being safer. In fact, they reference the intersection of Clover and Central as the location for the crossing. I don't dispute that accidents happen at intersections because they do. What is being disputed is the process that took place, to place this signal at it's current location. The Mayor had first stated it was a County project in an attempt to evade residents questions, directing us all to the County. I have the documents, including letters from Town Admin. Jim Gildea that acknowledge this was a Westfield design engineer's request for a mid-block crossing contradicting the County's "Signal Warrant Analysis" that was done in 2007.

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NR9

10:44 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Now we're getting somewhere. We are on topic. And, I appreciate your statement of: "if it is determined that the current location of the light is more dangerous than at the intersection, then I would support the move." And, I agree with you that there have been and always will be plenty of accidents on Central Ave.
The recent accidents in that area- Is it possible that those accidents still would have taken place if there was no mid-block light/walk or if the light/walk were at the Clover/Central intersection... Yes, I'll agree with you there - certainly, it is possible that those accidents would have happened anyway. Based on what I do know of those accidents and where they took place, I doubt it, but, I will for the time being, give you the benefit of doubt on this and go on the assumption that they would have happened anyway.
So, where does this now leave us in the discussion? Well, we have MANY observations from MANY pedestrians/motorists saying they have made, almost made or witnessed MANY near-accidents right there at that mid-block light/crosswalk. That alone, should tell us further investigation is warranted.
When SAFETY is involved, it is very short-sighted of our politicians to simply say, "well, that's where the light is now, so, well, let's just leave well enough alone."
It would be nice to see, from readers and politicians, some solid points as to why some think the Clover/Central intersection is worse than mid-block. I've seen no such points so far.

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Gregory Kasko

11:25 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Westfield’s own consulting engineer, Gordon Meth, authored a report titled “Traffic Calming and Safety Improvements for Eight (8) Locations. This report was authored in July of 2006 and submitted to the Town during the planning stages of the Pedestrian light. In that report it lists “Traffic Facts”. One fact listed is: “There were 10 motor vehicle collisions in 6 years” at the intersection of Central & Clover. Central & Clover is the original proposed location of this Pedestrian light until the Westfield Town Council made themselves the “experts” on traffic safety and had it moved away from the intersection. That statistic reveals that an accident occurred, on average, once every 7.2 months.
The Pedestrian activated light at the current mid-block location became operational on February 4th 20011. It has already surpassed that aforementioned average thus making the current “Skibitsky/Ciarrocca” backed location of the Pedestrian light less safe…and much more dangerous.

If you consider the amount of time that this light has been operational, the “accident occurrence rate average” at the current mid-block location would be one accident every 81 days or 4.6 accidents a year….or 27.03 accidents in the same time frame as the study done at the intersection of Central & Clover which revealed only 10 accidents. That is almost a 300% increase.

Ben Harmon

10:33 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Greg Kaskso said in defense for falling asleep on the job: "The officer that you claim I failed to back up, had backup on the night in question. In fact, it was btoadcast over the radio that another patrol unit was going to back the other officer up. "

Are you kidding Mr. Kasko? So your defense for not responding while you were sleeping on the job is, "someone else will be there." Very weak!

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NR9

10:47 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

@Ben Harmon,
It is clear that you don’t like Mr. K.
But, WHICH of the TWO LOCATIONS do you think is SAFEST for the light and walkway?
The current MID-BLOCK location or the CLOVER/CENTRAL INTERSECTION.
Please support your response with facts/observations that are on topic. Please refrain from character attacks on the parties involved.

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Gregory Kasko

11:05 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

No, my defense includes the Audio CD containing the other officer transmitting he and his partner were responding to backup the officer. When you don't receive a transmission over the radio you can't be accused of not receiving it. Also, Verizon phone records proved my "awake" status during the time I was accused of sleeping. But I'm sure you already have your mind made up about the whole set of circumstances. This forum is about the mid block crossing, not some frivolous departmental issues that are over.

Southide W

10:35 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Mr. Kasko, Assume that I accept your argument that the current location is not more safe than the intersection of Central and Clover. Now that the light is where it is, what proof do we have that the current location less safe? We don't know.

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Ben Harmon

10:57 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

NR9, in fact I believe the light should be moved. I was simply responding to an indensible act that Mr. Kaskso himself posted..which in fact also relates to public safety. Where are your comments to Mr. Kasko to remain on topic?

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NR9

11:05 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Kasko is simply defending himself from your off-topic comments and other peoples' off-topic comments. He is not initiating those off-topic comments.

As for moving the light, it looks like YOU, ME AND KASKO all agree FOR INTERSECTION and AGAINST MID-BLOCK.
This article is about the light, not about Kasko.

If you have points to make in support of OUR position that you and I agree on, please do so.
We need more people to speak up.

Because, when attacking Kasko in the context of this Patch article, you are giving the appearance of attacking his position on the light.

Attacks on Kasko... good guy, bad guy or whatever, belongs somewhere other than in this discussion thread.

Ben Harmon

11:19 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

NR9 - Relax...take a deep breath. Clearly your passionate about this topic...however limiting people's right to free speech isn't the way to go. Unless you own this site, which you clearly don't, you shouldn't expect people to follow your rules just because you say so. If you can't deal with a free give and take, then I suggest you go to another forum.

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NR9

11:47 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

I'm all for free speech. I'm pointing out that many commenters appear to have formed opinions as to what is the safest location based on whether or not they like or dislike those three people. In making decisions about traffic safety, we should not base what we do on a popularity contest for/against those three people. My concern is for the children and adults who walk and drive on that block every day.

Ben Harmon

11:36 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

Mr. Kasko said: " But I'm sure you already have your mind made up about the whole set of circumstances." No, my mind isn't made up. But since you said this, I am curious for further clarification. You said an audio CD depicts other officers responding...that I understand. But then you said you can't respond to a transmission that isn't received...so you're saying you didn't hear the transmission? Can you clarify that?

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Gregory Kasko

11:52 am on Friday, May 27, 2011

I am not going to continue to facilitate this discussion while the issue is about the mid-block pedestrian crossing. What I will do to answer your questions is to post the audio I have obtained and will dedicate a Sunday evening Internet radio show on the topic. Feel free to call in and ask me anything you want. You can go to www.07090.blogspot.com to access both the show and audio after I have posted it. I will post the date and time of the show on the site. You can also contact me through the site's email address. You can also listen to any of the archived radio shows I have done by accessing them on the link provided on The Fact of The Matter at www.07090.blogspot.com

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francis

3:48 pm on Friday, May 27, 2011

I thought the topic of the article and the accompanying video was about the appalling and uncivil way that the stop light advocates from both sides were conducting themselves.

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MK_Westfield74

6:03 pm on Friday, May 27, 2011

I had totally forgotten about Kasko's indictment until he reemerged- I think the Patch should look into his background as an unbiased party so we know how credible he really is or is not. That story literally dominated the headlines for months.

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Gregory Kasko

6:35 pm on Friday, May 27, 2011

Your choice of the word "indictment" to describe the departmental charges that were dropped is no different then Mayor Skibitsky suggesting that my employment was terminated when he knows that I retired in good standing. He signed the paperwork. The isuue did not dominate the headlines for months, it carried on from November of 2004 when I first tried to report the use of police computers to do illegal background checks on residents until I retired in November of 2007 which could be construed as years. It is now the holiday weekend, enjoy the great weather.

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bob05261958

8:57 pm on Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Wow!! This seems like a very mature and useful debate that is really contributing to solving the problem. This is a town where the mean income and education level is well above the national average...heaven help us all!

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harry

4:21 pm on Thursday, December 29, 2011

"I’m just getting started,” t-shirts and bumper stickers are now on sale.

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