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Resident to Council: 'You Are Embarrassing Yourselves'

Debate continues over Central Avenue traffic light.

 

Debate over the new pedestrian activated traffic light on Central Avenue heated up Tuesday evening with a resident asking Mayor Andy Skibitsky to explain why he called her rude.

Resident Maria Carluccio, who has been helping advocate to move a traffic light off of her neighbor's front lawn, asked Skibitsky to apologize for calling her rude in a previous meeting. Carluccio and neighbor Adina Encelscu have been asking for the traffic light to be moved from Encelscu's front lawn to the nearby intersection of Central and Clover, which was originally proposed by a town retained traffic consultant.

"I have neighbors who will not sign the petition that more than a 100 people signed in the immediate vicinity of our homes. They said they would not sign the petition or come here to speak because of fear of retaliation," Carluccio said. "When I made that comment you told me and I quote, that I was doing myself a disservice and that I was rude."

"So I looked up rude since I was offended and I also happened to have to comment, that it seems when you can't answer in substance, you seem to attack me personally and other people," Carluccio said. "I've been attacked personally. The definition of rude is lack of graces and refinement of civilized life. The lack of education or knowledge. You already tried to humiliate me by asking me how much education I had in traffic safety. The definition says I am uncouth, ill-mannered, discourteous, undeveloped, primitive. Is there any part of that definition I fit, Mr. Mayor?"

Skibitsky and Town Council members sat in silence during Carluccio's comments. The Council has in the past waited for Carluccio or Encelscu to finish before commenting. Skibitsky engaged in a slight give and take with Carluccio during her comments, reminding her of the 10-minute time limit at times.

"Please continue," Skibitsky said when Carluccio asked if she was rude.

"Is that a yes or a no?" Carluccio said to Skibitsky.

"Please continue," Skibitsky said.

"I am continuing, is that a yes or a no," Carluccio said. "You called me rude."

"You have 10 minutes," Skibitsky said.

"You called me rude, you called me rude," Carluccio said, speaking over Skibitsky.

"You are screaming," Skibitsky said. "Please don't scream from the seats."

"Am I rude sir? You are unbelievable, You are unbelievable," Carluccio said. "You are embarrassing yourselves. You're unbelievable. You can't apologize for calling me something that I'm not."

Carluccio continued to press for town traffic consultant Gordon Meth to attend a Council meeting to answer questions from residents. Carluccio's ally, retired police officer Greg Kasko, has cited a report from Meth recommending the light placed at the intersection of Central and Clover. During previous meetings, Councilman Mark Ciarrocca, who represents the neighborhood said that the decision to move the light to Encelscu's front yard was made by county officials.

Ciarrocca and Skibitsky have said that any consideration to move the light would not be made until after the light is made active. Town officials have said this will allow for data regarding traffic safety to be analyzed.

The debate over whether or not to have Meth answer questions prompted Councilwoman Vicki Kimmins to break the Council's silence to suggest that Meth attend a future meeting. Skibitsky quickly quashed Kimmins' proposal.

"Mr. Meth was available to residents at meetings," Skibitsky said. "There is no reason for us to spend money on something that has already been decided."

"Not even a private neighborhood meeting?" Kimmins said in response to Skibitsky.

"It was decided," Skibitsky said to Kimmins. "It was a very well done process."

"Maybe this would help quell some of their questions," Kimmins said.

Meth spoke at neighborhood meetings prior to the Central Avenue project being finalized. The meetings addressed issues including reconfiguring the intersection of Central and South, placing cul de sacs on two side streets and the disputed traffic light.

Carluccio and Encelscu said they did not receive notice of the meetings. Ciarrocca has said at past meetings that his sons passed out flyers in the neighborhood advertising the meetings.

Kimmins' proposal received support from Councilman Dave Haas, who represents the neighborhood. Ciarrocca quickly questioned Haas, noting that Haas attended the original meetings with Meth.

"You voted in favor of it," Ciarrocca said.

Haas said that he had additional questions regarding the traffic light and its placement that Meth could answer.

"I have no problem with admitting I made mistakes," Haas said.

What are your thoughts on the pedestrian activated traffic light on Central Avenue? Tell us in the comments.

Mitch Slater

10:40 pm on Wednesday, February 2, 2011

I applaud Vicki Kimmins for her hard work and community minded suggestions. Bravo Councilwoman Kimmins.

Mitch Slater (I speak purely on my own as a citizen and my comments do not represent any of my other hats _

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NR9

11:36 am on Thursday, February 3, 2011

I think at least 90% of Westfield is rooting for Maria Carluccio and Adina Encelscu. The light location is beyond ridiculous. The politicians should admit they made a mistake, apologize, and move the light to where lights usually are - at intersections!

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Westfield Fan

11:51 am on Thursday, February 3, 2011

Is this ridiculous light your "Oil Spill" Councilman Ciarrocca? Take action and don't be afraid to admit to a mistake. You come across as defensive and unresponsive to your continugency. Man up!!!

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MMM

8:13 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

I thought the WHS student parking situation was Councilman Ciarrocca's "Oil Spill".

South Westfielder

1:32 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

Although I too question the placement of the light, the impact to the citizenry has been greatly exaggerated. "Ruined my life", Really? I find that the undignified and emotional behavior as well as the inane ramblings of Mrs. Carluccio and Ms Encelscu overshadow any point they are trying to make.

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GC

2:31 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

I doubt the councilman is a bad guy. The placement of the light just seems like a terrible error. I agree public support seems to be heavily in these residents' favor. You know, sometimes it takes a lot more courage to say, "A mistake was made." I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. Come on guys, do the right thing! Move the light to the intersection.

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Bill Guiles

3:11 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

Southsider - I agree that an emotional reaction tends to detract from the issue. Who really cares who said what to whom. However, it's way too easy to offhandily say that this doesn't effect a person's quality of life. Many factors come into play...traffic, noise and not least of which is property resale value. The majority of people's largest asset is their house. Walk in a person's shoes before casting such easy judgements.

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South Westfielder

4:53 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

Bill, I have been a Westfield resident for most of my 50+ years. I have lived on both sides of town.I have also have been before the Town leaders myself when the apartments on Central Ave wanted to expand their parking lot (the backside of the lot sits up against my backyard). In spite of the objections of others and me, the Town leaders voted to allow the expansion because parking in Westfield "has always been an issue". As a result - more of my backyard borders the parking lot. Well, apartment residents still park their cars along Central and many of the extra spaces go unused. I get to view the complex's garbage bins from a bedroom window and hear the Waste Management trucks banging and clanging. Do you think this added value to my home? Nope, but it did not "ruin my life". If traffic noise was a huge concern, then why would anyone choose to live on Central Ave in the first place?

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NR9

5:12 pm on Thursday, February 3, 2011

It's not about traffic and noise. Of course, that comes with the territory and is to be expected when one purchases a home on Central Avenue. That is not the issue and I do not think that is what the affected homeowner is arguing about. The issue is that the light was placed about 30 feet south of where it should have been placed. And, since it was placed where it was, it now has become a major threat to the safety of the affected resident should a northbound motorist mistake the white lines for being a regular intersection and speed left into her driveway. I understand your parking lot issue and, as a fellow Westfielder, I thank you for "taking the hit" for the benefit of the rest of our team. Really, I do appreciate it. But, this is a potentially life-threatening danger for one home/homeowner should a motorist mistake the painted lines for an intersection and drive left into her driveway at high speed. The white lines in front of her driveway really make it confusing for motorists. That's the difference. The argument is not about a light or no light but rather about placing it where it is now vs. where it belongs, 30 feet to the north, at the intersection of Central and Clover.

sally cohen-alameno

8:44 am on Friday, February 4, 2011

I am happy to see that there are many residents of Westfield who are supporting Ms. Encelscu and Mrs. Caruccio in these comments. I wonder, however, how many have been willing to support them openly at these meetings, perhaps write letters to the Leader, etc. I am afraid that the Mayor and his allies find it easy to label these women as hysterical and overemotional and are trying to avoid this issue. I drove by the location to check it out and it seems obvious to the layperson where the light and intersection should be.

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John Celock

9:20 am on Friday, February 4, 2011

Sally,

Patch also takes letters to the editor.

John

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Gregory Kasko

11:58 am on Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Sally,

Both Adina Enculescu and Maria Carluccio are passionate about this issue. It is very easy for the Mayor and his allies to categorize these women as hysterical and overemotional because it is easier for Mayor SKibitsky to attack the messenger instead of defending the town's position with regards to the message being brought to their attention. The Mayor has a habit of doing this, I have witnessed it personally in his responses to my Letters To The Editor in the local newspaper. Instead of answering the questions posed to him, he "skirts" the issues by attacking the person posing the questions. He questions there backround on the issue, education, and uses other evasive tactics in avoiding answering the question asked. Recently, he has resorted to silence when asked questions about the placement of the pedestrian signal on Central Ave. The last time a Mayor became silent towards residents on such an issue, that won't go away, was when former Mayor McDermott went silent on the parking deck fiasco. He also advised his fellow council members to do the same. We all kow what happened....the parking deck project was defeated in a public referendum and Mayor McDermott left office early. If only history could repeat iself with this issue.............

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