Poll: If the Bond Referendum Vote Took Place Today, How Would You Cast Your Ballot?
Polls will be open from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Monday, Sept. 24.
After months of arguing for and against the $16.9 million dollar bond referendum proposed by the Westfield Board of Education, the vote is just days away.
On Monday, Sept. 24, Westfield residents will head to the polls between 7 a.m. and 9 p.m. to decide the fate of two separate multi-million dollar capital projects—district-wide roof repairs and a lighted turf field—bundled into one bond referendum.
Some residents have stated that they would have preferred to decide each project on its own merits. Taxpayers contrasted the roof repair – almost unanimously viewed as an urgent necessity – with a turf field that some felt was more of a luxury. Residents of the high school area expressed concern with potential nuisances spilling over and affecting their property. Others balked at the sheer size of a $16.9 million bond and the all-or-nothing stakes that attached the two projects.
The $16.9 million bond would increase the average assessed home’s annual tax bill by $45 in 2013-2014, according to a presentation given by Superintendent Margaret Dolan at the BOE meeting held on Tuesday, Sept. 11. Over the life of the bond, the average home’s tax bill is not expected to increase by more than $55 (including existing debt).
The roof replacement proposal has received strong approval for months, after the Board spent several years seeking to address the growing concern. In her presentation, Dolan said the average age of the district’s 10 school buildings is 73 years. Though the roofs of most of the buildings have lasted longer than their original lifespan, as Dolan said, “they’re old.” Should the bond be approved, $13.6 million will be allocated to replace the roofs of all district buildings during the summer of 2013, representing 77 percent of the district’s total roof surfaces.
Westfield schools athletic director Sandy Mamary has stated that the lighted turf field, with a $3.3 million price tag, is the district's response to the growing student population and that the maintenance of natural grass fields has become cost prohibitive.
Walkin Westfield
7:02 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
according to presentation the bond is unnecessary. The roofs can be maintained and replaced from the amount of tax for prior bond issuances that homeowners are no longer obligated to pay due to expiration of prior year bond issuance.
Time For Change
7:18 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
my previously point made and supported by your latest-- I certainly hope that you don't have children that are a product of our schools.
Walkin Westfield
7:07 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
By the 2020-2021 school year the WHS populaton is projected to be below the student populaton for 2012-2013. The increase enrollment is only a mini baby blip. Natural grass can support a strong school system and help all residents household savings increase.
Doogie Howser
8:05 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
That $45 per year of savings would really jack up your standard of living, eh? Wooo - another 10 starbucks venti's.
Concerned Westfield Citizen
8:26 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Have you seen the grass fields our children play on compared to other towns in New Jersey? We should be embarrassed with our facilities.
Walkin Westfield
7:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Yes, I play on the grass fields they're great. Maybe you just don't want to drive and you expect everyone else to spend their money to resurface the natural grass field with plastic for you.
Kathy
8:00 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Interestingly if this bond does not pass, which it really shouldn't based on its merits, the BoE has said that they can unbundle the bond and put the roof bond back out for vote as soon as the November 6 general election, when it should have been held in the first place. So VOTE NO now, and get the luxury turf field off the ballot, and rest assured that your child will not be going to schools with leaky roofs.
Doogie Howser
8:06 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
The $25/year for the turf fields was really going to bust your budget, eh? I'm amazed you can afford to live in this town if that $25 is too expensive for you to handle.
Kathy
8:14 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Actually it has never been stated as low as $25. It has been misstated that it will never cost more than $55/yr but that takes in account retiring debt which is very misleading. The total cost to each household, as can be found on the "informational" web site, will be over $2300, which I believe is significant for a luxury item. And on top of the $170 sewer fee and all the other "nominal" increases in our taxes, many people in this town cannot afford it.
Jeff F
11:43 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey Doogie, since you seem so unconcerned with the costs, why don't you dig into your trust fund, and foot the bill? Taxes go up every year, we've got a new sewer tax (ooops, don't call it a tax--its a "surcharge") to deal with, and every day there's more services falling by the wayside because there's no funds available. You vote your way, and I'll vote mine.
Walkin Westfield
12:06 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
but wait, the $16.9 million is only the cost paid to the vendors the cost to the residents is $23.5 million when the interest expense over 20 years is included. So add $900 to the $2,300 and you have an average cost per resident of $3,200 over the life of the bond.
Enough already
8:32 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
We need fiscal responsibility at the BOE. Since the 2 projects are bundled together, it forces me to vote no. Had they not tried to manipulate the issue with the bundling I would have voted FOR the roof repairs and AGAINST the field.
John Levy
8:42 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
The most significant reason our housing prices are higher than surrounding communities (Scotch Plains, Mountainside, Cranford and Clark) is that our school system is considering, and actually is, better by any objective measure. Funding our schools, including replacing roofs and upgrading athletic facilities, will allow us to maintain our ratings as a superior school district and will maintain and enhance the value of your home, the largest asset most of us own. Voting for the bond issuance, regardless of its benefits to students, is the right financial decision for any Westfield homeowner.
Tell us the truth
9:10 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
John, you're correct. But if you look at these other communities you will see that they include the maintenance of their facilities in their budgets. Our BOE has had a strategy of putting the minimal amount into this account, therebye creating a crisis situation that they tell us we're in now. This forces a bond on us and therebye circumvents the cap. I posted on another article that yesterday's Leader has an article about Scotch Plains that has them replacing a bunch of HVAC units. All within their operating budget. The editorial also says they did a bunch of roof repairs or replacements within their budget. The BOE audit also showed that we have not carried adequate reserves for maintenance. I think it was something like only $9k.
I look at it as the BOE not wanting to make tough decisions when it was time to reduce items. Their maintenance plan was to let the facilities go to pot and then tell us we need a bond.
So yes we do measure nicely when compared with our neighbors.....except when you look at fiscal management and bonding for things that should be within an operating budget.
JC
10:01 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
To paraphrase U.S. Sen. Dirksen, a few dollars here, a few dollars there, eventually adds up to real money. Additionally, since lenders have prudently gotten back to only allowing borrowers a maximum monthly PITI payment, when taxes go up, the amount people can borrower goes down. At the rate property taxes have been increasing, it is not inconceivable that one day the whole max PITI, will be just taxes and no room for any P&I. At current 30 yr mtg rates of approx 3.75%, the monthly P&I is $4.63/$1000 borrowed. That means for approx every $5/month increase in your property taxes, you lose $1000 borrowing power. Rising property taxes thus inhibit home values from appreciating. The less people can borrow, the less they can pay you for their home. Of course they could always put more down, but that is assuming they have it. If not, the housing market slows while the average person saves that extra down. Either way, rising property taxes inhibit home price appreciation.
john mancini
8:46 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Why do Moms and Dads become politicians the moment they are sworn in ? Why did they bundle the lights with the roofs ? Also isn`t there a line item every budget for the brick & mortar of the buildings ? Why do we have to replace all the roofs NOW. Can`t we replace one this year and "Patch" the others. Next year replace another roof & so on. BONDS=HIGHER TAXES. And oh yeah, next year the teachers will want a new contract & this board will just give them another raise. So it`s $25 this year,+ the new water bill tax + another tax for the teachers union. It does add up. Vote NO on the referendum. To all who want these lights, ask the neighbors who live around the field how they feel.
Jeff B
12:22 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Re: "... next year the teachers will want a new contract & this board will just give them another raise."
John, you raise quite an interesting issue. If new roofs have to be financed out of the operating budget that leaves that much less for teacher raises. They are hardly in a position to say that the roofs really did not the need the immediate replacement they claimed. They might be forced to look at the 3 years of 3.9% increases given in 2010 and say that they were twice what they should have been - so none this time around, as we need roofs. I bet that is what this roof bond issue is really all about - not burdening the operating budget with roof replacement costs so they have plenty of money for salary increases.
South-side resident
9:19 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
I understand all the points for and against the bond, but for me it really comes down to one issue -- the attempt by the BOE to bundle the two items together, knowing that one item is a necessity and one item is a luxury. They took the choice out of the hands of the voters, simple as that. We have to send the message -- with a NO vote -- that their action is unacceptable, and force them to allow separate votes for the two issues in November. Also, regarding the cost -- whether you think it's high or low, whether you care about the increase in taxes or not -- we apparently have become a town that can't afford to staff our fire department at a level where it can respond to more than one fire at a time (resulting in forcing firefighters to stand on the sidewalk and watch a house burn while they wait for assistance). How do we then choose to take on more debt to spend $3 million on a lighted turf field? Lastly, to John Levy's point, I agree with the idea of investing in the school system to maintain property values. So, yes, fix the roofs. However, Westfield's standing as a school district is not influenced by whether we have turf or grass fields. It is influenced by things like class size, available technology, test scores, etc. So if that is the concern, spend the money in the classrooms and help ALL students.
Just Concerned
9:20 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
NO WAY! Cut in public safety with the town, and we will get a new turf field -- HELLO?
GGG
9:25 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Some like to mislead and/or scare homeowners. $2300.00! that number is for the life of the 20 year bond. $45.00 - $55.00 per home is the projected annual cost increase for the entire bond. Most agree with the roof portion of the bond. So considering the field is less then a quarter of the bond, that puts the cost of the field at around $15.00 per year. I think all town residents, can afford $1.25 a month. ONE DOLLAR and twenty five cents a month !
Jeff B
10:10 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
GGG, the $2,300 is a Board of Ed number. Also, the ~$50 projected annual increase is reduced by decreases we would otherwise have from maturing debt, making it a scam to present it this way. The bottom line is that we could have $2,300 more in our retirement savings in 20 years if we force the Board to get serious about appropriate fiscal management.
Jeff B
10:25 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
RE: "Westfield schools athletic director Sandy Mamary has stated .... that the maintenance of natural grass fields has become cost prohibitive."
It was just reported in the Leader that the Houlihan turf fields require about $775,000 of maintenance work at about the 7 year mark. Considering the relatively short life of turf fields, their great expense, removal costs and maintenance costs, to try to suggest that a grass field, which only needs maintenance, is more costly is bizarre. If a grass field has become cost prohibitive, then she just made the case that a turf field is totally unaffordable.
Westfield Parent
10:35 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Mr. Mitch Slater, could you explain why we are not putting the lights at Kehler Stadium instead, with the existing artificial field? Wouldn't that be the most logical, the most economical, and the most sensible thing to do? I posted this same question to Mrs. Ann Cary and Mr. Rich Mattessich and they could not answer this obvious, glaring, and simple question.
Turf No
10:39 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
They tried twice for permanent lights and once to install temporary ones for 1 or 2 Football games and the neighbors went ballistic, so they never brought it to a vote.
Westfield Parent
10:46 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
So now they try to pick on a different neighborhood? Why do they think that they can get away with it this time? This neighborhood is not as rich and not as powerful? Is that it?
"They tried twice for permanent lights and once to install temporary ones for 1 or 2 Football games and the neighbors went ballistic, so they never brought it to a vote."
Westfield Parent
10:47 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
So now they try to pick on a different neighborhood? Why do they think that they can get away with it this time? This neighborhood is not as rich and not as powerful? Is that it?
"They tried twice for permanent lights and once to install temporary ones for 1 or 2 Football games and the neighbors went ballistic, so they never brought it to a vote."
Richard Brautigam
11:21 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
The high school already has a turf field at K stadium. This town has suffered a number of disastrous fires over the past year. A field for use by the field hockey team and other minor sports is a luxury at any time, but particularly in the current economic environment. Turf fields are proven to lead to higher injuries rates in young athletes. I understand that the bond and public safety are not directly related, but the continuing gall of the school board to behave as if the external economy doesn't exist is symptomatic of the tragic arrogance of local government in this town. Unbundle the bond, and then I will consider voting yes.
Jeff B
11:58 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Richard, I agree with your comments about the gall of the school board to behave as if the external economy does not exist and your other field-related points, but have a suspicion the disastrous fires are a different matter. There have been too many references over too many months (and too many fires) to it possibly being addressable if the union contract could be reopened and union officials having "no comment". I suspect that it is a labor problem more than a financial problem where the Fire Department is concerned, that the town is either not being very candid about or is not addressing appropriately - as there is, in my opinion, a clear fire response problem.
GGG
12:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
HERE ARE SOME FACTS. - The economy is bad. - Interest rates are at an all time low. -The roofs are in need of repair. The field is in terrible shape. - Most vicinity towns have better fields. -The BOE did not budget the money required to maintain the roofs or build a new turf field. - Our home values are related to our school system. - This has nothing to do with fireman, cops or DPW workers. - Turf fields are a luxury. -BOE members are volunteers. - last BOE election cycle only 4 people ran for office. -All were uncontested. ----- HERE IS MY OPINION.- I will not blame short time volunteers for our current situation. - I don't want our school roofs to get worse -I don't like having second or third rate fields for our kids. BOTTOM LINE - Doing nothing is not an option - I can afford $2300.00 over the next 20 years. - Thats less then $2.50 a week. I am voting Yes.
Walkin Westfield
1:36 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
WHS field is in great shape, check it out for your self don't take Sandy Mamary's word for it. If you don't like the field why don't you raise the money privately like they do in other towns. Voting NO is the other option, the BOE can come back with a new proposal.
Jeff B
1:21 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
GGG, I absolutely DO blame short term volunteers for our current situation!
Specifically, they are the ones that chose to give teachers 3 years of ridiculous 3.9% raises in 2010! We would have had plenty of money for replacement of roofs without those raises, with no bond issue. Salaries might be around 60% of a $95M budget. In the last year of the contract 12% higher salaries is a great deal of money, each and every year - forever!
As to your mention of "volunteer". So what?! If you can't bring the skills to properly supervise a $95 million budget and devote the time to do so, why would you dream that you are qualified for the job. In case you have not been around Westfield for decades, these elections have been like High School popularity contests. People who talk about sound fiscal management of limited resources (and not being able to do everything) have had an extremely difficult time getting elected versus people who have little or no financial background and promise to do everything imaginable "for the children".
Time For Change
2:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Jeff, I am sorry that you were not elected in the last BOE election. Oh wait, you did not run. You are just of the many who sit and do nothing, give no time, but find plenty to complain about. If you are so concerned, start going to the meetings, follow in detail and then you can sit in judgement of the 9 people on the board. At least they devote the time that most recently, only two other people, out of almost 24,000 eligible, decided to do. They all should resign and then people like you would have to do something other than write letters.
Brian
2:00 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
This is a question of priorities. Clearly, the roof project is a worthy and responsible use of the money we pay in school taxes. However, I fail to see how a light turf field is a priority given the current state of our school system. Is it more important to have a lighted turf field than to have smaller class sizes for our children. Hey, while we are at it, a full day Kindergarten would probably be a better investment of our tax dollars than a lighted turf field. Shame on the Board of Ed for bundling this together. Someone should really investigate exactly who stood to gain financially from the lighted turf field. It certainly wasn't the taxpayers or our children.
Jessie
2:05 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Brian, a full day Kindergarten would be wonderful! We are definitely in need of that and most other towns have already transitioned to it. The BOE is obviously trying to pull the wool over our eyes with this bundle but we will not allow it. VOTE NO!!!!
Brian
2:25 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Thank you Jesse. I plan to vote no as well. I understand that there are already plans to put the roof project to a separate vote in November. What a waste of time this has been, when we could have just voted on the roof project now and been done with it. I can't speak to what has motivated the BOE but there should be an investigation. Their bundling tactic has unfortunately invited suspicion.
Westfield Parent
2:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
"After the tide recedes, we will find out who have been swimming naked." Hopefully, after Monday's voting, we will examine how the town of Westfield has come to be like this and where we want it to be in the future. I am hopeful. I will make sure all my eligible family members go to the voting booth.
Jeff B
3:45 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Time For Change, your nasty comments say more about you than about me. I happen to be a senior citizen whose family has been in this town since long before you were born. Our family includes educators and has volunteered in many capacities, when we had young children and now. People with financial expertise who are willing to say "no" and senior citizens have had almost zero chance to get elected by the moms here. Look at Keith Hertell who recently tried twice and was well-qualified. I write and speak with people plenty and pay attention. I have also learned from personal experience that attending Board of Ed meetings to speak out or offer help tends to get you ignored or insulted, or both.
FD
4:27 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
We dont need a lighted turf field - it is safer for our kids to play on grass and most of the towns we play have grass fields. You can buy a lot of grass seed for $3 million. And the roofs should be funded through the capital budget. It is fiscally irresponsible that the BOE has not set aside anything for roof repair and suggests fiscal incompetence.
Jeff B
4:46 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
FD, in fact, various Google references indicate a triple-A rated, 20 year municipal bond yields about 3% today. Just the interest on the $3.3 million is about $100,000 per year. That would buy a lot of personalized attention for that grass field!
The amount of interest on this whole $17 million bond issue has been a very little discussed issue. It seems it could run to $500,000 per year on the total amount. That would be an unwelcome hit to the budget.
South-side resident
4:56 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Jeff B makes a very good point. Most people don't think about -- or are not aware of -- how interest accrues on a bond, and what the REAL cost of borrowing turns out to be in the long run. If these numbers were presented clearly, I believe more voters would be angry about the fact that the maintenance of the roofs was not accounted for in the budget all along. And more people would grasp the "true" cost of the luxury of adding a THIRD turf field to the town.
Walkin Westfield
7:41 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
the figure I heard was the cost of the project $16.9 million along with the interest over the 20 years came to a total of $23.5 million. I didn't check the math however to see how accurate that is
JERSEY GIRL
4:41 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
You said it Jeff! My family has been in this town LONG before all these commuter famiies moved in! Changed the atmosphere of the town pool-its now like a water park for toddlers, now lets get a lit field so we can compete with the other towns? Who cares? If you want a lighted field-move! You will only be here a few years anyway until your job transfers you to another city.. Pls vote NO!!!!
JC
8:31 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
$1.3 million per roof. We're getting hosed!!! I think someone's relative is getting over on us!!!
Jeff B
8:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Walkin Westfield, the numbers you quote seem reasonable. They mean the roofs will cost 39% more ($23.5M versus $16.9M) as a result of borrowing money than if they had been responsibly replaced in the past out of the operating budget or, for that matter, paid over the next several years from the operating budget.
Frank
12:07 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
I can only hope that each of you that is against this bundled, bungled bond calls 5-10 of your neighbors and friends to join you- offer to drive those neighbors on your block or ones you know from town on Monday so no one FORGETS that the vote is this coming Monday. Jeff B, you should be applauded for your truthful comments about the town and who gets elected. With Mr. Hertell, there was a fellow named Michael Farrell who ran for a spot. Look him up now, he is a financial giant that could've really added some strength and smarts.
Remember to vote Monday.
J.Brendan Galligan
5:29 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Just to clarify the math, compound interest is calculated using the following formula: Amount = Principle*(1+ interest)^years.... Therefore borrowing $16.9M at 3.0% interest compounded over 20 years would be calculated as follows: $16.9M*(1+0.03)^20 = $30,523,200 The number goes up significantly if we use the current going rate for municipal bonds with a AA+ rating of 3.5% (Total amount = $33,627,400)... Since there are 10,000 +/- households in Westfield, each household will be responsible for $3,362.00 or approximately $168 per year. Either way, the claimed $45-55 per house doesn't compute.
Jeff B
7:15 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Brendan, there are two points here which likely affect the numbers. Bonds often have "sinking fund" or other principal pre-payment provisions that reduce the principal outstanding over the life of the bond and therefore the interest as well. The $23.5M total quoted versus the $16.9M borrowed suggests something like that applies here. Otherwise, as you correctly point out, the $23.5M number would be way off.
The second point is that even $2,350 ($23.5M/~10,000) per household is unarguably around $118 per year for 20 years. Here it appears (from others' comments) that the true increase may have been camouflaged by maturing debt going off the books - so the number may have been presented as a net increase from where we have been. Without full disclosure, which may have been made, presenting a roughly $118 increase per year per household as "$45-55" would be sleazy. Perhaps there is yet another explanation.
J.Brendan Galligan
8:24 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Jeff, Thank you for your clarification. I forgot about the possibility of pre-paying the principle. However, using the boards upper-limit projection of $55 (household/year) that would be mathematically impossible. $550,000/yr barely covers the interest. At that rate, it would take over 100 years to pay off the bond. (4 times the life expectancy of the roof and 12 times the life of the field).
I will have to give the board the benefit of the doubt that I am simply missing something here. If they are counting the maturity of current debt to obtain this figure, its rather misleading but not technically inaccurate.
Westfield Parent
10:50 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
The BOE are like embarrassing parents: the kids are under leaky roofs, embarrassing; no money set aside for roof repair, embarrassing; trying to take out another big mortgage (bond) for roof repair, embarrassing; trying to take out even bigger mortgage (bundled bonds) to pay for a Ferrari (lit turf field) to keep up with the richer neighbors (Summit, Chatham), now that has become ridiculous!
John G. Public
12:15 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
The BOE is a bunch of thieves, trying to guilt us all that "its for the kids". Did you know the AVERAGE administration cost for each and every class room in NJ is $250,000 per year! Cut admin costs now. How can they not have the roof replacement in the operational budget? What if the boilers go? What if the have to resurface the parking lots? All normal wear and tear items that should be in operational budget. At some point we all have to say NO MORE spending- time to cut expenses. If we put solar panels were does that electrical savings go? To pay a debt (bond) operational expense, or more administration waste???? It is time to say enough is enough. It is not if we can "afford" the assessment, but is it fair to the tax payers? Can all the money being spent, be spent more wisely?
Time For Change
12:20 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
JQP, next BOE meeting is a week from tonight according to the website. You should go to that meeting and say what is on your mind. Maybe introduce yourself to that group of people with that first intelligent sentence and see how far you get.